Talk:Rubaiyat
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The Rubaiyat of SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN
editThe Rubaiyatof the Persian poet SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN is not spam it is a valid contribution to the Rubaiyat tradition —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubaiy (talk • contribs) 12:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
So far as I know there isn't an actual Persian poet named "SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN", and the alleged Rubaiyat by him are actually parodies of Omar's Rubaiyat. Even if that work is an authentic collection following the Rubaiyat tradition, it shouldn't be in this disamb page, but should belong to the Ruba'i page dedicated to the Persian poetry style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by
A.o.oncemore (talk • contribs) 03:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
It is not a parody of Omar. Parody is humorous this Rubaiyat is not humorous but uses erotic images as metaphor for mystical expereiences-you tell us where the humor is in SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN. If you laugh at it then you have hang ups with sexual images
You dont know Persian poetry. Rubaiyat is a poetic form many Persian poets wrote Rubaiyats Rumi has a collection of Rubaiyats for one. Would you delete a reference to Rumis' Rubaiyat?
You say you dont know if SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN is a Persian poet. What you know who all Persian poets are -do you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubaiy (talk • contribs) 08:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
My points are:
1. There's no credible evidence to prove to me the existence of such a poet as SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN. The name is not mentioned anywhere except to promote the Gamahucher press book. If you have any solid data about this poet, please consider putting together a wiki page for him. Just that he's the dubious alter-ego of a "C Dean" wouldn't be good enough.
2. (And now I'm repeating myself) Even if this is an authentic piece of Persian rubaiyat, it shouldn't sit on the disambiguation page, parallel with the poetry style to which it belongs. I'll leave it to someone else to deal with the more evasive spam on the Ruba'i page, but I'm not going to put up with the glaring spam on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A.o.oncemore (talk • contribs) 21:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
You say it is spam -please tell us why
and why this entry is not spam # Rubáiyát a compilation album - which could be seen as advertising the album
Why your entry is spam? For the two simple reasons I listed above. Rubaiyat as the name of an album doesn't belong to the Persian poetry form, and merits its place on the disamb page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A.o.oncemore (talk • contribs) 20:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
sorry that want do even if Rubaiyat as the name of an album doesn't belong to the Persian poetry form, and merits its place on the disamb page. it is still advertising thus spam so if that can stay so can SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubaiy (talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
there is an entry called Rubaiyat Persian poetry form if that can stay so can SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN
there are entries on the page which you accept which contradict your objections to SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN so SALAH AL-DIN IBN BIN DEEN can stay
OK COMPROMISE I have made the entry to Rubaiyat a form of Persian -which is techicaly incorrect more precise and given at bit of detail , NOW SEEING IT WAS ALREADY ON THE PAGE I CANT SEE YOU OBJECTING TO THE DETAIL —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubaiy (talk • contribs) 16:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I would still say that your edit falls into the category of "conflict of interest", being self-promotion. But I will leave it alone, since at least it's no longer logically out-of-place. I may do some minor revisions to the page. BTW, I agree with you that Rubaiyat should be defined as a collection rather than as a style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A.o.oncemore (talk • contribs) 21:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I would describe the "Salah al-din" Rubaiyat as distinctly non-notable. I'd favor deleting it even if it weren't the case (as it appears to be) that the person who included the mention of it on this page is the author.