Talk:Rudi Ball

Latest comment: 2 years ago by 2A01:598:99B2:9C46:71D0:FB0E:4E0B:50B1 in topic Untitled

Untitled

edit

How was this Jew allowed to live in Germany all through the war playing hockey in the time of the so called Holocaust? Tommypowell 00:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

There appears to be a simple answer to your question: there's a mistake in the article. Ball was only half Jewish: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/feb/17/rudi-ball-jewish-ice-hockey-star-germany-1936-winter-olympics Most German half Jews were not deported. The same goes for Helene Mayer referenced in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:598:99B2:9C46:71D0:FB0E:4E0B:50B1 (talk) 11:09, 17 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Wow. Amazed you have the guts to sign this obnoxious garbage. That's sort of the POINT of why he was exceptional, and he wouldn't have been allowed on the team if the other star players hadn't gone to bat for him. Dan4th 02:04, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Dan4thReply

My point is that if Hitler really wanted to kill every Jew he could lay his hand on it is unlikey that one like Ball would have been allowed to live unmolested in Germany through the war, regardless of what his teamates thought. Hence the easily dispoved "Final Solution" mythology is exposed.Tommypowell 14:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

No, the only thing that's proved is that (unfortunately) Hitler was smarter than you. Dan4th 20:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)Dan4thReply
Seriously, though, if you really want to discuss this nonsense, go over to Holocaust Denial where someone might listen. Dan4th 21:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)Dan4thReply
Or better yet put down down the crystal meth for a second and go to your local white power meeting.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 07:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Apart from his stupid anti-Semitism, the guy (I see he is banned) does ask an interesting question. The answer is that persecution of (particularly) German Jews was sometimes haphazard, and being an internationally renowned sportsman probably saved his life, although the fact that he was allowed to continue playing for Berlin SC till 1944 does seem somewhat strange. On the other hand Lufwaffe Field-Marshal Erhard Milch was half half Jewish, and upon hearing complaints about that fact Georing is alleged to have said "I decide who is Aryan"...82.46.139.31 (talk) 01:07, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
edit

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Rudi Ball. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 21:05, 14 January 2016 (UTC)Reply