Talk:Rum Sodomy & the Lash

Comma

I had always assumed that the first word "rum" was a noun, not an adjective. But the original album cover shows no comma. Should there be one in the title of the article? Many sources insert one, rather brashly, as it were. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:04, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I have little doubt that it's intended as a noun, especially considering the original quote, but best to stick with whatever's on the album cover. There is already a redirect in place.Doctorhawkes (talk) 01:12, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

I totally agree with the good Doctor, above. Grammatically it's incorrect, but the album title never never had a comma in it, so we should stick with that. By the way Martin, the thought of using "rum" as an adjective in the title throws up all kinds of, um, interesting images... Richard3120 (talk) 02:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

The article should be titled with a comma. Regardless of the album art, the band spells it with a comma on its website: http://www.pogues.com/Releases/Disco/LPs.html Going by the album art argument, the article should spell sodomy as "sod́omy", but it rightly doesn't. The album title has a comma and the page title should reflect this (like the lead sentence does). 86.135.14.175 (talk) 13:27, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I am persuaded to go with the anon. on this one, as the official website lists the album with a comma. The website would be a reliable source. ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 13:58, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately official websites aren't always reliable sources. For example, the Police's official website shows three of the band's first four albums as being released on the same day (2 October) in consecutive years, which seems too much of a coincidence, and their first greatest hits album is stated as being released on 30 November 1985, when in fact it was released in October 1986. So I don't put too much faith in information from official websites. Richard3120 (talk) 14:24, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Neither band member James Fearnley's autobiography Here Comes Everybody nor Carol Clerk's biography of the band Kiss My Arse use a comma when talking about the album. Richard3120 (talk) 14:34, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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Pistol For Paddy Garcia

Just a query about the track listing here - I'm pretty sure A Pistol For Paddy Garcia has always been track 7 on CD versions of this album. Was it not on the LP version? The track listing as it currently is says that Paddy Garcia was a b-side only included at the end of the album for a re-release. But I've always had that track on my copy of the album (which I've had since about 1991). Cardinal Wurzel (talk) 17:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Cardinal Wurzel: It was an extra track on the cassette and CD versions of the album, but it wasn't on the LP – it was quite common in the 1980s for the cassette version (and later CD version) of the album to include an extra track that wasn't on the vinyl version. I'll have to review the track listing in the article, but you are correct that CD versions of this album (in the UK and Ireland, at least) have always included this track. Richard3120 (talk) 18:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, looking this over, the article could do with a bit of clean-up and copyediting, including clarification of the track listing. In addition, I'm going to New York next month and hope to visit NYC's public library and see if I can track down original reviews from Rolling Stone, Creem, etc. from 1986 (when the album was released in the US) – this is on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums list, so it should be a GA candidate in the future. Richard3120 (talk) 20:06, 22 August 2019 (UTC)