Talk:Rumelihisarı

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Salix alba in topic initials in goat's blood.

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Very nice. Congrats.--Murat (talk) 08:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

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"With the help of thousands of masons and workers, the fortress was completed in a record time of 4 months and 16 days on August 31, 1452. This high speed of construction depended on extensive use of prefabricated elements. Contrary to the myth that Mehmed based the plan of Rumelihisarı upon his own initial in Perso-Arabic script, the shape of this fortress was determined by the lie of the land and was designed by an architect named Müslihiddin." This text was directly copied from the cited source by me but since my English is not native level it would be very nice if someone wrote these sentences by changing them a little bit. So they will not violate copyright. --Visnelma (talk) 16:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

initials in goat's blood.

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This article was mentioned on an external site Quora: Is-Wikipedia-completely-bias-free and the sentence

Prior to construction, Mehmed placed the first brick and superstitiously signed his initials and the Prophet Muhammad's on it with goat's blood.

Was brought into question. The reference is page 57 of Crowley, Roger (2006). 1453: The Holy War for Constantinople and the Clash of Islam and the West. Hachette Books.

He oversaw the staking out of the ground plan and laid the cornerstone. Rams were killed and their blood mixed with the chalk and mortar of the first layer of bricks for good luck. Mehmet was deeply superstitious and strongly influenced by astrology; there were those who claimed the curious shape of the castle to be cabbalistic; that it represented the interwoven Arabic initials of the Prophet – and of Mehmet himself. More likely the layout was dictated by the steep and difficult terrain of the Bosphorus shore, comprising “twisting curves, densely wooded promontories, retreating bays and bends” and rising to a height of two hundred feet from the shore to the apex of the site.

So it looks like we have not been faithful to the reference. I'll amend accordingly.--Salix alba (talk): 05:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)Reply