Talk:Rummy

Gin?

The standard game I've always known as "rummy" is quite distinct from gin rummy. Perhaps there should be some clarification on this point. -Branddobbe 18:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

AFAIK "Rummy" refers to the game that is named Basic Rummy in the article, and Straight Rummy at pagat.com. I've never heard it to be used to refer specifically to Gin Rummy. If one wants to have a shorter expression for Gin Rummy, I think one uses the word "Gin" rather than "Rummy". To complicate matters, there are a plethora of games called <something> Rummy, which are classified as Rummy games. However, not all Rummy games are called <something> Rummy, Canasta and Pan being notable examples.Punainen Nörtti 09:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Arthurvasey (talk) 10:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The version in the article appears to be, AFAIK, similar to the game I know as "Gin Rummy".

As a boy, we played a game called "Floaters". The game was played like this:

However many people (rarely more than three or four) - were dealt seven cards each - but one (the player to the left of the dealer) had eight;

The player with eight cards, after attempting to form a hand, would throw in a card. Each player would try and form hands in the same way, usually runs or sets - runs had to be all the same suit and sets had to be the same number - when they completed a hand according to the rules, they laid it down and the game was over. You laid cards on top of each other and you could only draw either from the top of the upturned pack, if it helped you (not from below that), or from the pile of downturned cards. This version was quite a challenge with more than two players, as, more often than not, you need the player immediately preceding you to chuck in the card that helps you - but, invariably, the wrong player throws it in!

The term "floaters" means that one numbered card was wild and counted as anything - we started with aces and went through to kings.

On quite a few Sunday afternoons, when dad was watching the football and mam was watching rubbish films, my nanna and auntie taught us card games - one of which was rummy - played like the above, but without the "floaters".

Variations on Floaters meant that, if time was short, you could play an agreed number of hands and cut for floaters at the start.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurvasey (talk • contribs) 10:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Matching games REDIRECT

Matching games redirects to rummy? It shouldn't. There are so many matching card games and rummy is just one of them. – Morganfitzp 20:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

incomprehensible explanation

If someone understands what this is trying to say, please improve the wording:

Also if a player has 3 of a kind, one of which continues another sequence on the field then another player may also continue off of that card. For example: if a player had a 3, 4, and 5 of hearts and another player had a three of a kind with 6, then another player may continue the sequence off of the player with 6. --Espoo 14:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

That really is a garbage explanation. It reads like it was written by an 8 year old. I'm not even sure if what they are trying to say is correct. "If another play had... they another play may.." --lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.7.70.110 (talk) 02:27, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Other incomprehensible explanations: Under Melding: "If a run lies in the discard pile, such as 2-3-4, you cannot call rummy without taking all cards below the top card of said run." There's no explanation as to why discarded cards matter for getting rid of a player's cards while calling rummy, nor is there any prior mention to taking multiple cards from the discard pile.

Under Declaring_rummy: "If there is a rummy lying in the pile, the player who called "rummy" can play that card while the player who laid the rummy must then draw 2 cards from the stock pile or pick up the entire discarded pile."

None of that makes sense. What is a "rummy lying in the pile?" What is "that card?" A player who called rummy is different from the player who laid rummy?

"If a player goes rummy when a card can be played, that player is out for that turn." Played by whom? Which player? Really, this whole paragraph is a mess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.41.135.159 (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Indian?

I put the statement that Rummy is an Indian game into a new sub-section on History. It's an interesting point but needs to be developed. OldSpot61 (talk) 22:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Knocking

If a player has less than 10 points of deadwood he can knock. On his turn, he will discard one card face down and show his hand. The opponent will show his hand as well and he may get rid of (“lay off”) any of his deadwood cards if they can fit into the runs or sets of the Rummy knocking player thus reducing his deadwood (I refer to this Rummy section). 87.98.212.226 (talk) 06:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Rules of Rummy vary considerably among different versions of the game: this describes a situation in one such version. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Melding or matching?

Wouldn't it be better to call "rummy" a "melding" rather than a matching game, since melds can be sequences as well as matches? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion to change a sub-heading in this article

I suggest that the first sub-heading in this article gets changed from "Book" to "Meld" as I believe it is more common for people to refer to the sequences or groups of cards of the same denomination that enable to lay down their cards as "melds" rather than "books". ACEOREVIVED (talk) 00:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Edits over the last few weeks

Really great edits everyone. The article is looking better and better! Shabidoo | Talk 16:13, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Move variations of Basic rummy into "Variations" section

I've noticed that several variations in the "Basic rummy" section have actually been added to the basic text itself, rather than being added into the dedicated "variations" section. It seems like the variations should be moved into that dedicated section.

I mention this because the Basic rummy text seems to very closely follow Pagat's rules of basic rummy (without explicitly stating it), and so variations would seem to make sense in the variations section.

Thoughts on this?

Velocitay (talk) 17:59, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

References

Edits and reverts to Ace2Three commercial site link

Hi Gayatri.Ivaturi21 and 2005, there've been a couple of back and forth edits adding and removing the commercial site https://www.ace2three.com/ as an external link to the article ([1], [2], [3]).

Perhaps we can come to a resolution here about how to include any information about this site that is relevant to wikipedia, before we go ahead with any more edits. What do you two think? Velocitay (talk) 18:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Gayatri.Ivaturi21, I see that you've made another edit re-instating your commercial site link; this is the third time you have added this link. I'm requesting, on behalf of 2005, Rummy-games and myself that you please remove this link, as I don't believe it belongs on the page (and I suspect 2005 and Rummy-games would agree). We are happy to discuss why we believe this is not appropriate content on Wikipedia if you have any questions.

Thank you! Velocitay (talk) 05:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Discarded Points

In the Play section of the article, a rule is mentioned that "discarded points would be 'rummy,'" however, there seems to be no description of what this means. Specifically, there should be a description of what a point is in this context and what it means to call "rummy." StewFor2Dollars (talk) 13:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Czechoslovak variant of Rummy

I'd like to inform You about an other variant mostly played in Czech and Slovakia. I discuss It about here, because maybe It is a same game. It is named Žolík, which means joker card. Cassa342 (talk) 10:53, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

You can create a draft Draft:Žolík and, provided it has good references, it can be added as a separate article. If you're not sure, post the information at User talk:Cassa342/Žolík and I'll take a look at it.Bermicourt (talk) 20:35, 16 December 2023 (UTC)