Talk:Russian cosmism

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Article does not cite examples of cosmism, it's too vague.

The birth year cited on this page for Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov is different from that stated on his own wikipedia page (by one year). I am not sure which is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.100.89.48 (talk) 15:59, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Cosmism/Theosophy/Anthroposophy

I had never heard of Russian Cosmism until now. Surely there is an interesting article to be written about its parallels in theme and time with the similar movements emerging at the same time elsewhere which also wanted to explore the possible consciousness-led evolution of the human race? Hmmm. Interesting. ThePeg 2006

Yes! I just wished it went into more details than just of its representatives. Please add more content!--Waxsin (talk) 19:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Me Neither

Dunno how interesting it would prove and unlikely anybody will spend much time on it so I tried to make it an attractive stub. What's curious is that in spite of nearly a hundred years of advancement since this movement, there are AFAIK essentially no modern successors and the transhumanists, Kurzweil, etc. maintain a distinctly provincial and anthropocentric world view. 72.228.150.44 (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Influence on USSR?

Zizek claims the following ""bio-cosmism," the strange combination of vulgar materialism and Gnostic spirituality which formed occult shadow-ideology, the obscene secret teaching, of the Soviet Marxism. Repressed out of the public sight in the central period of the Soviet state, bio-cosmism was openly propagated only in the first and in the last two decades of the Soviet rule; its main theses are: the goals of religion (collective paradise, overcoming of all suffering, full individual immortality, resurrection of the dead, victory over time and death, conquest of space far beyond the solar system) can be realized in terrestrial life through the development of modern science and technology. In the future, not only will sexual difference be abolished, with the rise of chaste post-humans reproducing themselves through direct bio-technical reproduction; it will also be possible to resurrect all the dead of the past (establishing their biological formula through their remains and then re-engendering them - at that time, DNA was not yet known...), thus even erasing all past injustices, "undoing" past suffering and destruction. In this bright bio-political Communist future, not only humans, but also animals, all living being, will participate in a directly collectivized Reason of the cosmos... Whatever one can hold against Lenin's ruthless critique of Maxim Gorky's the "construction of God (bogograditelk'stvo)," the direct deification of man, one should bear in mind that Gorky himself collaborated with bio-cosmists. It is interesting to note resemblances between this "bio-cosmism" and today's techno-gnosis." --Gary123 (talk) 15:04, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

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Idea Not Explained

There's plenty of information on other philosophies or religions that Russian Cosmism draws from, and there are examples of followers of Russian Cosmism ... but nowhere does this page define what exactly this concept is or means. What are its ideas or tenets? They aren't described here. "A broad theory of natural philosophy" is extremely vague. "... combining elements of religion and ethics ... It combined elements from both Eastern and Western philosophic traditions as well as from the Russian Orthodox Church." Which elements did it combine? The "Theory" section is especially problematic; some of that section describes where its ideas come from, while the rest describes what it has influenced, which is fine, but those sections need to be labeled correctly, and the "Theory" section needs to contain some actual theory. I wanted to learn about this subject, but I could not, not here anyway. Tomlee1968 (talk) Tomlee1968 (talk) 21:14, 12 September 2022 (UTC)