Talk:Ryan Ashley/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 15:23, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -  Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• It contains copyright infringements - Copyvio comes up pretty clean Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -  Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -  Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Links

• Checklinks has an issue with website https://www.ryanashley.com. Might need archiving? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• No dablinks Y Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• Like Tattoo artist? Or, at least tattoo. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• No birth date in lede? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  Her birth date isn't published in sources, hence the infobox's range and why I excluded it from the lede

• Is she a tattoo artist known for her television appearances, or notable as a television personality, known for her tattoo artistry? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  The former: her tattoo artistry is the basis for the television appearances

• Is her awards - such as winning Ink Masters, not more important than her style? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  Similar to the above, she is an artist before a television personality

• Malarkey also owns two oddities and antiques shops in Pennsylvania. - What an oddities? Should antiques be wikilinked? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  I could link to wikt:oddities but I think those are common dictionary definitions, no?

  • I think I meant more what is an oddities store? The sell weird antiques. Seems like the wording suggests it's well known phrase. Maybe it is - I've never heard of one though. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:51, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

• Should the lede mention she is American? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  It does

Early life and career

• Should this have subsections? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  IMO, it's not long enough to be warranted

• Malarkey learned to draw from her mother - learned drawing from her mother. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• appliqués - what is this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• Malarkey and her companion - are they not important? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  Biographies (and WP articles in general) quickly go into the weeds with little details that do not pertain to a general understanding of the actual biography, hence why I generalize details that do not require specificity

• Malarkey and her companion opened a shop in Kingston, Pennsylvania, in 2013, The Strange and Unusual Oddities Parlor. - Is this a name? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  Yes

• wikilink taxidermy Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
• This should definately be put into her early life up until owning her second shop, then one on her TV time Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  The line about learning antiques from her family? I think it would be confusing to take that single line out of context—it's the type of thing that only matters in context of her opening an oddities shop

• In late 2016, - when is late 16? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  (See above re: specificity)

• outlast other competitors and receive the season's title and monetary prize - is this neccesary? Aren't all reality shows like this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  I think explaining the premise of the show is useful context for a general audience

• "Mic noted the occasion as a moment for female tattoo artists, who are subject to social stigmas in a male-dominated profession." - Who at Mic noted that? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  (See above re: specificity)

• The rest is fine, but I'd like something from 2018-present? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  She hasn't made as much press recently but the article is up to date with all major stories

• Malarkey was formerly[16] engaged to Josh Balz, former keyboardist in the metal band Motionless in White. - She's single now? What happened? No more info? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  I thought this was the most encyclopedic way to put her personal life

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions): - No images

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Placed on hold - Not much to do. Some wikilinking and rewording, reorganising. Is there no images of Ryan? I hope this review has been helpful. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
    • @Lee Vilenski, thanks! Made some fixes and replies, if you can take another look. The article is short, so I've tried to keep it neat, on point, and proportionate to her coverage in reliable sources. czar 13:25, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

• I think you've answered all my points above. I'll pass it now. Thanks for the article! Have a great day. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

GA? Without an image?

Czar, how can an article gain GA class without an image? This article also seems pretty short for a GA. Yoninah (talk) 21:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to ping Lee Vilenski, the GA reviewer. Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Nothing in the GA criteria says "it must have an image" - it just says it should be "illustrated, if possible" and should list any copyrights.

I take that to mean, if there is images available on commons, or a NFCC argument could be made, it should be added and have the correct copyright embellished.

For BLPs specifically, almost all images fail NFCC #1, unless they are physically taken by someone or a copyright owner releases the item.

There are other GAs without images, for instance Don Zimmerman (lacrosse) which was the second random GA I looked at. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: OK, I hear. But Don Zimmerman (lacrosse) is much longer and more detailed than the current article. I would give the current article a C-class, max. Most of my C-class articles are more detailed than this. Yoninah (talk) 13:55, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Length has zero to do with GA quality. There are tonnes of much shorter articles than this that are GAs. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:57, 23 August 2019 (UTC)