Talk:Ryan Mallett
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CFPA spam out of the lead section
editsee Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football/Archive 7#College Football Performance Awards, Part II. —bender235 (talk) 22:35, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be consensus to add this award on the project page, and I support that. In any case, it's not notable enough for the lead. Dayewalker (talk) 22:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for opining; I've started a new thread which should help the community with respect to these issues. Regards, Obamafan70 (talk) 22:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm weighing in here at Obamafan70's request. I must admit that I had never heard of the College Football Performance Awards before they started to gain prominence here on Wikipedia. They don't seem to be at the same level of significance as the more traditional college football awards (e.g. Heisman, Maxwell, positional awards like the Doak Walker) like the ones listed here at ESPN: http://espn.go.com/college-football/awards. Nonetheless, they are being covered in university press releases, so it's fine to note them in the body of articles and in comprehensive lists of awards. I would recommend, though, that they be kept out of leads at this point. For Mallett, for example, there's much more important stuff to discuss in a lead than winning a College Football Performance Award, like say the fact that he led the SEC in passing yards and TDs in 2009 or noting the leadership/strategy changes in the Michigan football program that led to his transfer to Arkansas. Most pointedly, a phrase like "world's largest crystal football trophy" strikes me as unabashed promotional fluff. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:03, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- "I would recommend, though, that they be kept out of leads at this point." I looked at the ESPN link, and it's not listed there, though I'm not sure using ESPN, an entertainment company, is a valid reference point. The AP covers it, for instance. Nevertheless, your position is reasonable; please discuss on the college football wikiproject forum for a discussion of some of the other awards currently in leads. Thanks Obamafan70 (talk) 23:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- By the way, the Manning Award is not listed under the ESPN awards section. I find that odd. Obamafan70 (talk) 23:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- "I would recommend, though, that they be kept out of leads at this point." I looked at the ESPN link, and it's not listed there, though I'm not sure using ESPN, an entertainment company, is a valid reference point. The AP covers it, for instance. Nevertheless, your position is reasonable; please discuss on the college football wikiproject forum for a discussion of some of the other awards currently in leads. Thanks Obamafan70 (talk) 23:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm weighing in here at Obamafan70's request. I must admit that I had never heard of the College Football Performance Awards before they started to gain prominence here on Wikipedia. They don't seem to be at the same level of significance as the more traditional college football awards (e.g. Heisman, Maxwell, positional awards like the Doak Walker) like the ones listed here at ESPN: http://espn.go.com/college-football/awards. Nonetheless, they are being covered in university press releases, so it's fine to note them in the body of articles and in comprehensive lists of awards. I would recommend, though, that they be kept out of leads at this point. For Mallett, for example, there's much more important stuff to discuss in a lead than winning a College Football Performance Award, like say the fact that he led the SEC in passing yards and TDs in 2009 or noting the leadership/strategy changes in the Michigan football program that led to his transfer to Arkansas. Most pointedly, a phrase like "world's largest crystal football trophy" strikes me as unabashed promotional fluff. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:03, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for opining; I've started a new thread which should help the community with respect to these issues. Regards, Obamafan70 (talk) 22:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- The conversation was re-opened here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#What awards are sufficiently notable for a lead?. Guiltlessgecko (talk) 00:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- The NFL passing attempts and NFL passes completed are the same number unless it's been corrected. 72.209.125.222 (talk) 18:15, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Former coach's discharge?
editWhy does this article say that Ryan Mallett was responsible for his former coach's discharge? The article on his coach says that his discharge was due to an inapproprate work relationship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubixcuban (talk • contribs) 18:05, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Stats vs. Tebow
editThe claim that Mallett had superior passing statistics to Tebow in 2009 is questionable. Tebow had a higher effiency rating and nearly 15-point higher completion percentage. Also, Tebow ran for more than 900 yards that season. MurrayTheWiz (talk) 02:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Was not a rip current, yellow flags that day. It was sadly an unfortunate drowning and had nothing to do with water conditions
editWas not a rip current, yellow flags that day. It was sadly an unfortunate drowning and had nothing to do with water conditions 24.236.109.84 (talk) 16:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- According to officials, that's correct. A rip tide was not present at the time Mallet was being responded to. I've added this with a source to the article. However, keep in mind that a yellow flag doesn't mean a rip current can't form. They can happen even when a green flag is flying. --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:59, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Things the reports are getting wrong
editFrom my firsthand account of the tragedy, Mallett was not with a group of people. He was with his girlfriend and no other friends. My family sat about 4 umbrellas away from Ryan and Madison Monday and Tuesday. The people who seemed to struggle in the water were people responding to Madison's cries for help. I was one of those.
Secondly, as some reports say, there were yellow flags out and no sever riptides. They made the fatal decision to swim to the sandbar without aid of a floatation device. it's an easy mistake to make. SwineOnUCrazyDiamond (talk) 21:39, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Game-by-game narrative is too detailed
editThis article has a game-by-game narrative of Mallett's football career. It is not encyclopedic in tone. For this context, it is far too much detail. The section about Mallett's football career should only feature the highlights and the very most significant events. Let's simplify and streamline that part of the article's body.—catsmoke talk 05:23, 29 January 2024 (UTC)