Talk:S-mine

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Tkt2011 in topic Bouncing or bounding
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translation is wrong

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"The German S-mine (Schrapnellmine in German)," thats not right S-Mine is an "Schützenmine" yes it will be an Schrapnellmine but in that S means Schütze- as an old name for infantry.

--87.183.202.70 (talk) 08:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC) Hake Cpt (AR) rtReply

Schutzen mine refers to another type of mine, actually, known as the shoebox mine.--Primal Chaos (talk) 20:46, 1 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Missing references

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The current version of the article makes some references to sources that aren't actually listed in the References section:

  • (TM-E 30-451, 1945)
  • (Valias, 2005)
  • (Ingraham & Jones, 2003)

--Delirium 00:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, they're in the External links section. That was a bit confusing to me, but I'm not sure if there's a better way of presenting it. Perhaps external links used as references should go under "References" instead of external links? Perhaps a matter of taste. --Delirium 01:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
That would not follow Wiki's manual of style.--Primalchaos 14:15, 13 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
The opposite is true, actually. According to Wikipedia:Cite sources, external links used as references should be in the references section, and only external links not used as references should be in the external links section, which may/should be renamed "further reading" in such cases, for clarity. Changing accordingly. --Delirium 06:17, 15 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

External links were damaged - some schmuck had linked it to porn. Please insert the links again.

Warning

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Isn't the following warning wrong? "Anyone encountering any undetonated landmine, no matter how old, should always contact local authorities and not attempt to handle such a device in any way." Let's say I encounter such a mine. I contact the local authorities (why "local" btw?). They send someone. According to this warning, he should also contact local authorities, and so on, recursively... My point is in fact that this warning is POV because it is only written for incompetent readers. Ideally, it should be replaced by informative content like accidents statistics... Marc Mongenet 22:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

I've removed the sentence - while Wikipedia has descriptions of people, places, and things, Wikipedia articles should not include instruction - advice (legal, medical, or otherwise), suggestions, or contain "how-to"s. --Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not →Raul654 22:27, 13 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Kudos!

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Great featured article, well done all concerned! --22:23, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Timer vs Release

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Given that the propaganda of the time suggested that a soldier kept his foot on the mine, and the mines in fact triggered after a delay, is there any record of what happens if the mine fires while the soldier is still standing on it? was it be kept underground by the weight of a person, or did it just knock the soldier over and still end up exploding in mid-air. If the former, I would think it would cause a lot fewer casualties, blowing off the leg of the soldier that triggered it, but not causing any meaningful shrapnel wounds to anyone else. The propaganda might be right, just not in the way it was intended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.145.85 (talk) 07:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

I am not aware of any reliable reference to what happened with an original S-mine if you did keep your foot in place. But with the post-WW2 mines that evolved from it, the lifting charge is powerful enough to blow the mine straight through the foot. -- Securiger (talk) 13:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
Considering the S-mine was propelled by a large black powder charge, I think the situation would be similar.--Primal Chaos (talk) 16:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

The page on the US M16 mine (a copy) says that there is a delay so the victim will move off the mine so it is is "not obstructed". Doesn't take a huge charge to launch a mine 3ft in the air. Even if it was still likely to maim/kill the victim, staying on it would protect surrounding troops. Maybe thus the training films? Of course, one wonders how you detect that you've triggered a mine....45Colt 09:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Tigers

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If it is designed to be buried and only works pointing straight up, how do the "launcher tubes" on the Tiger work? Does it use a modified version fired downward and set to explode before it hits the ground? These don't seem to lend themselves to "scattering", really..45Colt 10:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Bouncing or bounding

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There seems to be disagreement on terminology. Are these (and similar) mines called "bouncing" or "bounding" mines? ehn (talk) 04:27, 13 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

There is an another article about ”Bouncing mines”, but not ”Bounding mines”. Haven’t Gear anything about lattea, I suppose it could have something to do with automatic spelling checkers. Tkt2011 (talk) 20:16, 16 October 2018 (UTC)Reply