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ETKA
editFor information, the SEAT Exeo first appears in ETKA in SEAT update 266. 78.32.143.113 (talk) 14:42, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Engine range
editAccording to SEAT's current publicity material [1], the global Exeo engine range comprises 1.6 (75kW), 1.8 TSI (110kW) and 2.0 TSI (147kW) petrol engines and 2.0 TDI CR (88/105/125 kW) diesel. Are there any other sources apart from (presumably) ETKA that mention an 88 kW 1.8 or a 155 kW 2.0 petrol engine? Letdorf (talk) 12:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC).
Yes it might be true that according to SEAT's current publicity material the range of the Exeo comprises the engines that you 've mentioned, but if you have a look in ETKA's references to the Exeo, you will see that on May 2010 there are going to be significant changes in the petrol engines range. The ETKA programme is the most reliable 'semi-official' source for VAG cars, absoletuley accurate and for sure more trustworthy than blogs and magazines, and if you watch carefully its updates, sometimes it happens that not only the technical specifications but also even the whole sketches of future models appear for the first time in the ETKA before any scoop pictures come into surface. This happened for example with the late gen SEAT Ibiza, which made its first appearance in the ETKA pictures before any release of a spy photo. Another example of ETKA's references being verified is the 1.2TSI engine 105PS (CBZ) (already implemented to the Leon and the Altea, and from 9/2010 onwards to the Ibiza too). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.202.119.241 (talk) 16:04, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- Per WP:CRYSTAL, we should be careful about describing things on WP that have not happened yet. If we are to include engine options that are not yet in production, we should at least note in the article that these are anticipated future developments, and cite a source - although how exactly one cites something one has found in ETKA, I'm not sure (at least an ETKA update number should be given, I think). Letdorf (talk) 13:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC).
- This has nothing to do with any kind of a speculation, it is found in ETKA and this is not a source with anticipated material, it is almost official. Though I cannot go back and see what was the first time when the new petrol engines range was mentioned in an ETKA update, for sure I can tell that the latest SEAT's ETKA update is #325 and the new engines are mentioned there too, anyone can check this out. After all it comes very clear that the new TFSI petrol engines are going to be implemented from May 2010 (as soon as the 1.8 SRE T engines production will come to an end), since the production dates are stated both in the article (with a reference to ETKA) and the powertrain table, alongside with the details about their engine ID codes (CDH, CDN) and the trim levels, all according to ETKA ie an official source with undisputed accuracy and reliability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.71.202.35 (talk) 17:11, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Those upcoming engines should not be in the infobox unless there is mention they are coming--- --Typ932 T·C 22:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Well this is something which can be fixed easily in the infobox, by adding the production dates of the upcoming engines in a parenthesis using small fonts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.71.158.137 (talk) 23:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing planned for the future is ever 100% certain. Even the future plans of Volkswagen Group can change sometimes! IMHO, to avoid confusion, anything in WP articles which anticipates a future event should be clearly marked as such. Letdorf (talk) 14:17, 23 March 2010 (UTC).
- I agree that when we are talking about the future, nothing is ever 100% certain, so I guess it is fair to add the remark that those engines are to be expected. However, generally speaking, in such a case where we are talking about only one or two months ahead, the production plans just don't change in the last minute. My view is that car manufacturing is a way too serious business and the schedule is always set longtime before the start of the production, for example so that the deals with the suppliers can be closed and the preparations in the assembly lines can be made in time. After all if the new engines were to be cancelled, there should be no reason to publish it through ETKA. (PS: Keep in mind that the production of the new engines range may start on May 2010, but usually the news to the press could come anytime earlier or even later than 5/2010.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.71.158.137 (talk) 16:08, 23 March 2010 (UTC)