Talk:SMS Zenta/GA1

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Reviewer: CPA-5 (talk · contribs) 18:58, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

• The lead does not tell us what she did in the Second Balkan War?
  • She didn't do anything during the second war
• where they were captured by Montenegrin forces Pipe Montenegrin to the Kingdom of Montenegro.
  • That's linked earlier in the lead
• brigantine-sailing rig of 585.8 square meters (6,305 sq ft) on their two masts --> "square meters" --> km²?
  • I don't think I've ever seen a sailing rig area expressed in terms of square kilometers

• Oh damn, I mean "m²".

• What do you mean here? You'd prefer to see m² rather than square meters spelled out?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:11, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

• I though in American English like in British the symbol "m²" is more common (because I went to the UK and they barely use "square metre" but they use square inch). But it turns out it's not the case and this is an English variation look at this in American and this in British. So I guess never mind. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:30, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

• The ships' armor deck consisted of two layers of 12.5 mm (0.49 in) --> "Their armor deck consisted of two layers of 12.5 mm (0.49 in)"
  • Done
• the ship was completed on 25 May 1899 Remove the year.
  • Done
• serve as the station ship in Chinese waters Pipe Chinese to Qing China.
  • Done
• The ship arrived in Singapore on 3 January 1900 and then continued on to Hong Kong Pipe Hong Kong to British Hong Kong.
  • Done
• that assembled as part of the Eight Nation Alliance off the Taku Forts Eight Nation needs a hyphen.
  • Good catch
• In early January 1901, Zenta then sailed south to Bangkok, Thailand At the time Siam was popular instead of Thailand.
  • Done
• followed by a brief stop in Japan Pipe Japan to the Empire of Japan.
  • It's linked earlier
• From there, the ship cruised to Zanzibar Pipe Zanzibar to the Sultanate Zanzibar.
  • Done
• entering the Congo River and steaming to Matadi, Congo This is wrong, Belgian Congo wasn't established until 1908. And add Congo Free State because the port is really close to Angola.
  • Good catch

• I know my country's history. ;)

• and then Tenerife in the Canary Islands Add "in Spain" after the islands.
  • Done
• last leg of the trip, stopping in Corfu, Greece Pipe Greece to the Kingdom of Greece.
  • Done
• Link Trieste.
  • Done
• She was present for a visit of the British Royal Navy in Pola Remove British here.
  • I think it's worthwhile - how likely is the average reader to automatically know what the nationality of the Royal Navy?

• Okay makes sense but maybe we should put British in the link too.

• I don't really see a need for that as it's been identified for the reader.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:11, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

• an international fleet was composed to blockade Montenegro Pipe the country to the Kingdom of Montenegro.
  • Done.
• The ship saw little activity for the rest of the year This is an odd sentence because later you tell us that an outbreak of meningitis occurred in the crew in May?
• The quarantine was lifted fifteen days later on 17 May Maybe here summarise how many infected in total were and were there some casualties?
  • Sieche doesn't say, beyond how many were hospitalized and where. Parsecboy (talk) 19:36, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
• Boué de Lapeyrère ordered his ships to cease fire, by which time Zenta was burning Ngram claims that cease-fire is the most common of the three in American English.

That's the noun form. What we're using is the verb form which could alternatively be written "stop firing"--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

• Oh now I see, it's a verb + noun scenario. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Images

• "File:SMS_Zenta_NH_87371.jpg" "Zenta at anchor" when? Same with "File:SMS Zenta NH 87370.jpg"
  • The sources don't say, unfortunately. Parsecboy (talk) 19:36, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• Looks good.

Sources

• Maybe add Indiana in Sondhaus's source?
  • I don't add states/countries/etc. to sources as there's no point to the information - nobody's looking up a book based on where the publisher is.
• "Warship International" --> "Warship International: W.I."
  • Why? That's not part of the title of the journal. Parsecboy (talk) 09:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

• WorldCat says so I only follow the online editions if your copy disagrees, it's fine for me. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:11, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

• Yeah, I wouldn't always put my faith in Worldcat - I was looking for an old book this morning and found six versions of the same book (it was only one edition, not republished or anything, and all had minor variations in the exact name, publisher, etc. Parsecboy (talk) 14:22, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

That's it, for now, the rest will follow. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 18:58, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks CPA. Parsecboy (talk) 15:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

• @Parsecboy: Replied them and after we got an agreement, I'll continue tommorow. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 21:23, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

• Drive on, MacDuff!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:11, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

• Am doing it as slow as a ship in her waters. ;p The sources will be done tomorrow. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 16:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

• Hey @CPA-5:, I'm wondering if you've forgotten about this one? Parsecboy (talk) 12:59, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

• @Parsecboy: I might did, not mutch to say in the sources I've added the comments about the sources. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 08:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

• Looks good to go. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC)