Talk:SNU

order of entries of SNU

I tried the word 'SNU' on some search engines.
ranking of 'SNU' at google
1 Southern Nazarene University
2 Spiritualists' National Union
3 seoul national university.
ranking of 'SNU' at yahoo
1 Southern Nazarene University
2 Souel University
According to the results, I think Southern Nazarene University should be the top. --Yuan.C.Lee 06:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

the order of the links

We(wikipedians) have no such a covnention that items should be aligned by alphabet here. I request Appletrees to show the convention before you edit it. --Yuan.C.Lee (talk) 14:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I can say that you're strongly associated with Japan. I went to WP:LOA to see if you're possibly an administrator because of your tagging the protection template. (I'm joking, per your disruptive edits on Lee Myung-bak page, the chance is highly unlikely) You can't endorse to protect the page with it because you're not clearly a sysop. That kind of behavior is considered "vandalism"If I follow "your convention", I should've changed the name order of Liancourt rocks. Dokdo is more known name rather than the other Japanese name in the world. This page is a disambiguous page for users. Alphabet order is typically used in similar page.--Appletrees (talk) 14:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Appletrees, please read WP:MOSDAB before you claim disambiguation pages are typically sorted alphabetically. As per WP:MOSDAB#Order of entries, "the most-used meanings appearing at the top and less common meanings below." --Kusunose (talk) 17:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

No, you should not have preached me like a teacher with implausible commnet. The university has the most notable among the three university and "alphabetically" placed first. Yuan.C.Lee has made edit warrings with others on its notability. I rebut Yuan.C.Lee's inconsistent claim.-Appletrees (talk) 17:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Sunchon National University

I don't know how often Sunchon National University is called SNU. I found Sunchon National University uses SNU as a initialism.[1].--Mochi (talk) 16:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

No, it is like an example of Tokyo University or University of Tokyo, most prestigious school in Japan. If a Japanese says that he is a T dai student, then many people inside and outside of Japan might think he is so smart. But Japan has many universities with the first initial of "T".--Appletrees (talk) 16:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about?--Mochi (talk) 16:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Read between lines! Sunchon National University which I've hardly heard of is not generally using the abbreviation per articles regarding school ranking in South Korea and have not name value like Seoul National University. Unlike Japan, a few national universities are regarded as good schools. Sunchon Dae is generally called and written in news papers or other documents. If you graduated at Toho university (just googled it, is it famous?), and say that you were TU, people might misunderstand that you are smart enough to go to Tokyo University. --Appletrees (talk) 16:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation page helps readers find which article is the article they need. If we remove Sunchon National University, soem readers may mislead to Seoul National University. Do you understand the purpose of disambiguation pages?--Mochi (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't you still understand (in some case, the word "understand" to on opponent is insulting. Just use "get" instead) what the disambiguous page is for? Then make the article regarding Sunchon National University by yourself. You haven't tried to finding English sources and just wikistaking me for your certain feelings. You even didn't answer my initial question but just turn the point to another. --Appletrees (talk) 16:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I put this link again [2].--Mochi (talk) 17:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 29 April 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks 19:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

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SNU → SNU (disambiguation) – Seoul National University is very clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this abbreviation. In the last 30 days, the article got 17 thousand pageviews, more than any other article on the disambiguation combined [3]. Looking at the outgoing traffic, 100 percent of it is going to Seoul National University [4]. Finally, the university is widely considered the most prestigious in South Korea, which makes it distinct from the other universities in the disambiguation page. :3 F4U (they/it) 18:29, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Pageviews do not show an obvious primary topic between the universities in South Korea and India. No practical purpose is served by grabbing the primary topic in this manner. In summation, we should keep SNU SNU.^[Humor] ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. There are 11 bulleted entries listed upon the SNU disambiguation page, with no obvious indication that the Korean institution of higher learning has such a high profile in the English-speaking world that it dwarfs the combined prominence of the remaining ten entries. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:31, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

  How does this make sense when all of the outgoing pageviews from SNU go to the Korean University and the university itself gets many more views than the other options all combined. This is the very definition of a primary topic, A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. It gets over 60% of pageviews and nearly 4 times as many as the next topic (the Indian university established in 2011). Not to mention again, that the Korean university is the only university that has outgoing pageviews from this disambiguation. :3 F4U (they/it) 02:23, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

  I'd also note the disproportionate amount that SNU is represented in Google Ngram [5]. :3 F4U (they/it) 18:52, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

• You're not reading the WikiNav graphs in their entirety. There were 109 views of SNU, and this in turn led to 43 clicks on that entry. That ratio is ~40%. This could mean many things, but the standard is that an entry needs to receive more usage than all others combined, which isn't apparent at all. --Joy (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

  Wouldn't it be 43 of 57? Since the "filtered" pageviews appear to be filtered, not because of where they're going, but because of where their source is (The "Sources of Traffic" section). :3 F4U (they/it) 18:54, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

  The meaning of "filtered" is explained at the top. "Any (source, destination) pair with 10 or fewer observations was removed from the clickstream in order to maintain anonymity. The pageviews from these removed observations are referred to as "filtered" elsewhere on this page." So it's possible that some of them had destination that you're advocating for, but also possible that some of them had a different destination. With such an overall low number of views, I don't think we should short-circuit. Readers looking for the most popular meaning are apparently finding it, and to argue that the remaining ~60% of the data set is people who are somehow confused by this list formatting and are not finding the top-listed university - is a bit of a stretch. Even if you do that, you can also resolve it by reformatting the list, and then observing what happens in the next couple of months of statistics. --Joy (talk) 08:32, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. No clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:24, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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