Talk:SS Valencia

Early Morning?

Great article but I wonder about " . . . and the Valencia set off at 11:20 AM with nine officers, 56 crew members and at least 108 passengers aboard.[1] As she passed by Cape Mendocino in the early morning hours of January 21, the weather took a turn for the worse . . " If she set off at 11:20 am, on the same day she passed the Cape, it wouldn't get early in the morning, or in the morning at all. I guess I am assuming the cape is near the departure point . . . Was it the next morning, or ?? Nit picking I guess, it may all be correct but it makes me wonder if something is wrong here. KenWalker | Talk 18:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I've clarified that section. She actually left San Francisco on the 20th and passed by the cape the next morning. Looking at a map [1], the cape is actually pretty far away from San Francisco, so I think everything makes sense. Thanks for mentioning this – I should have been clearer about the dates when I wrote that section. →smably 19:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

A couple of additions

I added a couple of details, this is a great article, I thought something of the horror of this wreck, for some reason worse then others it seems (maybe because of the drawn-out nature of the last drownings) needed to be written.Mtsmallwood (talk) 07:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Source documents from investigation into incident

I've found source documents on the National Archives website, but I'm not quite sure if there's an easy way to bring them together into a single PDF to attach to the article, or if they would be a better source to cite than some of what's already cited. Any recommendations or suggestions? Here's the link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Choogler (talk • contribs) 21:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Ship's background history added.

I am pleased to announce that the background history behind the unfortunate Valencia has been added, along with her lesser known East Coast history. Apparently, she was a Red "D" Line steamer built for Caribbean service and was the younger sister to the Caracas. Interestingly enough, the Caracas was also wrecked. In 1889, the Red "D" Line sold Caracas to the Oregon Pacific Railroad Company, which renamed it Yaquina, but she was wrecked in Yaquina Bay by running aground rather than ever seeing the projected service with her new owners. 707 (talk) 21:54, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Final Voyage section; "... the Valencia overshot the entrance to the Strait of Juan de Fuca by more than 20 miles "

This sentence suggests to me that she missed the strait (and thus Puget Sound), but discovered the error after some 20 miles. But it appears from, reading the whole article, that the error wasn't discovered until some time after the wreck. How about "... the Valencia missed the entrance to the Strait of Juan de Fuca ...", and strike "by more than 20 miles ..."? Terry Thorgaard (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC) Without objection, I made the change I suggested. Terry Thorgaard (talk) 17:23, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Sail under American Registration and be manned by American crews

I think I know you really mean United States Crews and United states registration, because there is no country called America, there is a continent called America, North and South. I think for an international audience this needs to be changed. Avi8tor (talk) 06:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)