Talk:STS-128/Archive 1

Archive 1

Donatello

• The MPLM which is launched is not Donatello but Leonardo. Hektor (talk) 14:04, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Parameters section

While attempting to help make mission articles look more encyclopedic, reader friendly, and less "tech-listy", (the average reader has no idea what an apogee or perigee is, nor do they care) I've removed the section titled "parameters" and moved all those items into the infobox as designed. The infobox has many fields of information available in it, and only a part of it is being used in the shuttle mission articles. There is no reason to present information in a list in the article, when the infobox has been coded to handle that information. Ariel♥Gold 15:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Flight Engineer position

What is the title Flight Engineer mean under Hernandez? Is he a mission specialist and a flight engineer? What are the duties of a Shuttle flight engineer? Rillian (talk) 12:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

The flight engineer on the Shuttle sits on the middle seat on the flight deck during launch and entry and assists the pilot and commander in flipping switches they either can't reach or when they are busy. The also write down stuff the capcomm calls up and calls out milestones. He is MS2 and the flight engineer. Some commanders also have the flight engineer assist with other stuff such cryo config and other orbiter maintenance. I believe the flight engineer also assists with the oms burns.--Navy blue84 (talk) 13:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

There is no "middle seat" per se on the flight deck, are you referring to the S4 seat? Does every mission have flight engineer? Is it always the MS2? Rillian (talk) 18:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes the S4 seat is what I meant. Mission Specialist 2 is always the flight engineer, however sometimes a different member of the crew has served as reentry flight engineer.--Navy blue84 (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Do you have citation for the flight engineer duties? I Googled but did come up with anything official. Rillian (talk) 22:38, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

The exact duties I am not sure of. I know the flight engineer does help with switch throws during the count down, ascent and reentry. If you watch a shuttle launch, the PAO often mentions this. I will look and see if I can find something.--Navy blue84 (talk) 00:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

launch attempt

apparently it was canceled due to weather —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.230.120 (talk) 05:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Official European names

The STS missions with european participants are often (always) named, the article should mention this name somewhere. For this mission, a competition for naming the mission has been announced, see http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM6KEQORVF_index_0.html. --Patrik1972 (talk) 10:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

When there is a name for the mission, it could be added to the lead section of the article. The article you linked to didn't give a name I saw, but its after midnight and I have not slept much in 36hrs so I could have missed that!!--Navy blue84 (talk) 04:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

They have just announced the competition for naming the mission. Last day to enter is June 24 and it's only open for residents from ESA member states. Arkaska (talk) 18:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The official european name is Alissé, see http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Alisse/index.html. --Patrik1972 (talk) 09:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Photos

There are several photos that are free for use in Christer Fuglesangs newsletter. The site are in Swedish. I'm not allowed to upload photos myself get but someone else might want to do this. Arkaska 09:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

URL not found (404 error). Further, the copyright would be in question since (if they're on his/a Swedish website) we'd have no rights to republish the photos here on Wikipedia. - Ageekgal (talk) 23:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

TImeline from Press Kit

Flight Day 1

• Launch • Payload Bay Door Opening • Ku-Band Antenna Deployment • Shuttle Robotic Arm Activation and payload bay survey • Umbilical Well and Handheld External Tank Photo and TV Downlink

Flight Day 2

• Discovery’s Thermal Protection System Survey with Shuttle Robotic Arm/Orbiter Boom Sensor System (OBSS) • Extravehicular Mobility Unit Checkout • Centerline Camera Installation • Orbiter Docking System Ring Extension • Orbital Maneuvering System Pod Survey • Rendezvous tools checkout

Flight Day 3

• Rendezvous with the International Space Station • Rendezvous Pitch Maneuver Photography of Discovery’s Thermal Protection System by Barratt and De Winne of the Expedition 20 Crew • Docking to Harmony/Pressurized Mating Adapter-2 • Hatch Opening and Welcoming • Stott and Kopra exchange Soyuz seatliners; •Stott joins Expedition 20, Kopra joins the STS-128 crew

Flight Day 4

• Unberthing of the Leonardo Multi-Purpose Logistics Module (MPLM) from Discovery’s cargo bay and installation on the Earth-facing port of the Harmony node • Leonardo systems activation and hatch opening • Spacewalk 1 Procedure Review • Spacewalk 1 Campout in Quest airlock by Olivas and Stott

Flight Day 5

• Spacewalk 1 by Olivas and Stott (Preparation of P1 Truss Ammonia Tank Assembly for removal, EuTEF and MISSE experiment removal from the Columbus module) • Rack transfers from Leonardo to the station; transfer of the COLBERT treadmill from Leonardo to the space station

Flight Day 6

• Focused inspection of Discovery’s thermal heat shield by the shuttle robotic arm/OBSS, if necessary • Rack and cargo transfers from Leonardo to the station •Spacewalk 2 Procedure Review • Spacewalk 2 Campout in Quest airlock by Olivas and Fuglesang

Flight Day 7

• Spacewalk 2 by Olivas and Fuglesang (Completion of Ammonia Tank Assembly swapout on P1 truss) • Cargo transfer from Leonardo to space station

Flight Day 8

• Crew off-duty time • Joint Crew News Conference • Cargo transfer from Leonardo to the station • Spacewalk 3 Procedure Review • Spacewalk 3 Campout in Quest airlock by Olivas and Fuglesang

Flight Day 9

• Spacewalk 3 by Olivas and Fuglesang (Routing avionics cables for Tranquility Node 3 installation, replacement of Rate Gyro Assembly on the S0 truss, installation of two GPS antennas on the S0 truss) • Cargo transfer from Leonardo to the station

Flight Day 10

• Cargo transfer from Leonardo to the station • Crew off-duty time

Flight Day 11

• Final transfers • Leonardo egress and systems deactivation • Leonardo demating from Earth-facing port on Harmony node and berthing back in Discovery’s cargo bay • Farewells and Hatch Closure • Rendezvous tools checkout

Flight Day 12

• Discovery undocking from station • Flyaround of station and final separation • Late inspection of Discovery’s thermal protection system with the OBSS

Flight Day 13

• Flight Control System Checkout • Reaction Control System hot-fire test • Crew Deorbit Briefing • Cabin Stowage • Recumbent Seat Setup for Kopra

Flight Day 14

• Deorbit preparations • Payload Bay Door closing • Deorbit burn • KSC Landing

A good checklist for mission activities.LanceBarber (talk) 04:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Photo?

What happened to the second photo in the Media section, one of the two that showed the lightening? Bubba73 (talk), 18:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleted, didn't have proper permission: [1] Bubba73 (talk), 18:22, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Wing Leading Edge System

I just wikilinked the Wing Leading Edge System term in the FD13 section. As you can tell, there isn't an article about what the "Wing Leading Edge System" is, exactly. Is it part of the TPS? A cursory skim through that article doesn't reveal the term there...
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 18:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Its a series of accelerometers on the leading edge RCC panels which are used to detect debris impacts on ascent and on orbit. The data they collect is transmitted by radio to the onboard laptops, which allow the data to be collected by Mission Control. anonymous6494 15:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Its not actually transmitted by radio. There is wiring that transmits it back to a laptop on the flight deck.

No, there's not. See here. anonymous6494 23:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

See, that's good stuff! Why isn't there an article about it? If someone gives me a source I'll gladly start one.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 10:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)