Talk:Saarland

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Why did the French had so much interest for Saarland? Meursault2004 15:02, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

The mines, especially coal, so I've heard (would be good to have a reference). Stan 18:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello I'm from the Saarland and you're right. The French had so much interest for Saarland because of the coalmines. "We" had to pay Reperationszahlungen to France.

This is the last correct version of the guide at th moment. I Tried to fix it but wasn't capable.

21:59, 12 October 2005 Olessi (→History - March)==POV ?==

I'm no expert, but this portion of the article seems decidedly anti-french. It seems that a more neutral viewpoint may be appropriate.

Which part do you mean? This discussion page? Meursault2004 21:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

As a historian and Fleming (native 'expert' on disliking francophones) I can assure you an anti-French version would sound quite differently! Removing the anonymously put tag, as no shred of argmentation is given, nor a suggestion for more 'neutral' correction Fastifex 09:33, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Contradictions

This article contradicts with Saar (protectorate) on the subject of currency used during and just after the protectorate. TheGrappler 16:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I changed the date when Germany's Deutsche Mark became Saarland's currency. According to a German-speaking description of Saarland's history, Saarland returned to Germany (Federal Republic of Germany, that is) on January 1, 1959, still using French Franc as its currency; Germany's Deutsche Mark replaced it on July 6, 1959. The text says: Am 6. Juli 1959 folgte die wirtschaftliche Rückgliederung aus dem französischen in den deutschen Wirtschaftsraum, bei der u.a. in einem Währungsumtausch der Franken durch die Mark ersetzt wurde. Thomasnimmesgern 01:44, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Saar_franc also gives some information about the currencies used in Saar / Saarland. Thomasnimmesgern 02:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Tell me straight. If you'd found one ten DM bill, was it any value after July 6th ? Special+Utilizator+$ (talk) 06:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Its value was ten DM, before and after July 6th, 1959. By the way, your edit in Psycho Chicken's comment in the language section below changed the meaning of the sentence. --Pp.paul.4 (talk) 21:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Article or not?

I'm asking myself whether we should write "the Saarland". In German, it is always called "das Saarland", i.e., with preceding definite article -- like Switzerland ("die Schweiz") also having an article; and in contrast to, e.g., "England", which never gets an article, even though both end in ...-land.

To me, "Saarland" without an article just sounds plain wrong. --Wutzofant (✉✍) 16:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Not quite:

On October 27, 1956, the Saar Treaty established that Saarland should be allowed to join the Federal Republic of Germany, which it did on January 1, 1957.

This was the last international border change in Europe until the Fall of Communism.

There were at least two other border changes in Europe. Both were adjustments of territory. In one, the German Democratic Empire sold a small and hard-to-control tract of territory in East Berlin jutting into the West Berlin to the West. In another, Poland and the Soviet Union exchanged some small tracts of land along the border in 1951.

Those of course were far smaller than the Saarland.--Paul from Michigan 05:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's exactly what sounds plain wrong to my ears. I feel it should rather read "...the Saar Treaty established that the Saarland should be allowed...". Btw., where is that quoted text from? --Wutzofant (✉✍) 14:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

A bit of english lesson.

• "I am going home"
• "You are going to the house"
• "Saarland is changing Authority from the French Republic to German's"
• "Thus, Germany has the Saarland from France", and France lost the Saarland region.

It looks to me that Saar County, or german Saarland may be the "Country of All Chances" Wutzofant was asking and confused it with USA. PaulSpecial+Utilizator+$ (talk) 06:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Language

First, it sais: "In general, both dialects are an integral part of the “Saarlandish” identity and thus a strong source of local patriotism"

then goes on to explain the specifics of the Rhine Franconian language.

I am not willing to start a quarrel, but with this specialization, Wikipedia just continues to neglect Moselle Franconian, and, -due to the introductory paragraph-, even emphasizes the effect. Either do the same for Moselle Franconian, or remove the detailed discussion of "characteristic features". Yes, I am predisposed to engage in such discussion. Never mind.--Psycho Chicken (talk) 06:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, not quite. It says: Both dialects, even more so in their respective Saarland flavour, share many characteristic features, some of which will be explained below. I admit that there is more emphasis on the Rhine Franconian, since some of the described charactersitcs apply only to Rhine Franconian, but actually many features that are explained hold for both. Nevertheless, you're right that having more details on Moselle Franconian would be nice. --Wutzofant (✉✍) 17:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I am at a loss. Although I cannot cite any reliable sources myself (apart from myself as a native speaker), I am not done with the topic. Could we possibly organize the discussion of the differences btw. German and the dialects in the form of a table, keeping a line of introduction to each detail, i.e.

• Women and girls are referred to as...
  
• she said | Es hat gesat | Et hat gesat
• Conjunctive...
  
• would go | dääd gehn / gäng | gäft gehn

or similar. A question.

--Psycho Chicken (talk) 14:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC) (Tschuldigung, hannisch fagess)

Yeah, why not. --Wutzofant (✉✍) 14:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Saarland 1793 Map

While it's a very attractive map, full of colour, the Saarland 1793 Map is missing something that I feel is very vital to understanding the full message of a map: context. There is not a single city/town name anywhere on the map. Only the scale tells me that I'm actually looking at a small region. Before I noticed that, I thought I was looking at a major chunk of Central Europe. I'm guessing that the area shown in this map is simply an enlargement of the highlighted area in the first map on the page but it would be great for the map itself to confirm that in some way. For all I know, it shows some significant part of the territory surrounding the Saarland as well. Some city/town names and/or state/country names would help. So would the addition of a little bit of the surrounding territory with the names of those neighbours indicated on the map.

Rhino (talk) 13:00, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Religion

RELIGION:64,1% plus 19.5% plus 22% does not make 100%, does not it? :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.20.101.123 (talk) 13:29, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Resolved. --Pp.paul.4 (talk) 14:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Meaning of Saar

Mention the origin of the name. Jidanni (talk) 23:19, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

93.208.80.57 (talk) 15:37, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Education

Saarland is also home to the "University of Applied Sciences", German: "Hochschule für Technik und Wirtschaft des Saarlandes", https://www.htwsaar.de/htw/en

Falsehood (Die Wende)

CURRENT WP: The Saarland's unification with the Federal Republic of Germany was sometimes referred to as the Kleine Wiedervereinigung (little reunification in contrast with the post-Cold War absorption of the GDR (Die Wende)).

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This is plain false. "Die Wende" was the 1989 inner revolution of the GDR (DDR), i.e., the fall of communism. It is NOT a synonyme of "Wiedervereinigung" which is the proper word in German for Reunification. The -Wiedervereinigung- was a consequence, and happened later than the -Wende-. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LMSchmitt (talk • contribs) 22:52, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

I will correct this falsehood in a few days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LMSchmitt (talk • contribs) 12:32, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I don't want to be be cringey but, i was if anyone knows how 'Saarland' is actually pronounced. It's pronounced like this: (German: [ˈzaːɐ̯lant] )