Talk:Sable FC (Cameroon)

Requested move 29 June 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) -Killarnee (C•T•U) 21:06, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

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• Sable FC → Sable FC (Cameroon)
• Sablé FC → Sablé FC (France)
  • Create DAB page at Sable FC

– Two football teams with identical names, only one has a diacritic on the e and the other doesn't. Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Sable_FC/Sablé_FC. Per consensus discussed at Wiki:Football in 2020 for the precedence established at Aurora FC and Pacific, use country as a disambiguator. Neither team appears to be primary topic so both should be disambiguated. Turn Sable FC into a DAB page.RedPatch (talk) 22:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. RedPatch (talk) 22:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:SMALLDETAILS and WP:TWODABS#Different spelling variants. If both articles have a hatnote (which they do), there isn't an issue. Number 57 22:53, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support Many English sources won't neccesarily use a diacritic as it is not a standard on English keyboards. Therefore we shouldn't use a diacritic as a disambigutor - it makes searches by the reader harder, and also makes it more likely that editors will end up linking to the wrong club. --SuperJew (talk) 23:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support, the difference is easy to overlook, as not all languages use the accented é, and especially as the accented é is considered a variation of the normal letter e instead of a letter on its own right (as is the case with ä and ö in Finnish). JIP | Talk 00:43, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Paul Vaurie (talk) 07:34, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support per JIP, presence of a diacritic not always enough. GiantSnowman 10:54, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support 1st, oppose 2nd unless the 1st also uses diacritics, as noted most English readers won't use diacritics but those that do would only be looking for one that does. The Cameroonian has 90 views compared with 50[[1]] for the French one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:06, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose, the accented é is sufficient disambiguation here. Hatnotes can do the rest. 162 etc. (talk) 16:56, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• As the nominator, I support this, (if I'm allowed to vote). RedPatch (talk) 18:54, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
  • You are allowed to vote, but your vote was already implicit from the nomination. Otherwise you wouldn't have nominated this in the first place, would you? JIP | Talk 19:42, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
    • I've been involved in some where the counts didn't take into account the nomination (even though I understand it's WP:NOTAVOTE, so just threw that comment in to make sure it was remembered to include the nomination. RedPatch (talk) 20:18, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
      • And in doing so you violated the quite explicit instructions. Closers don't always get it right, but we will do best if people don't make things confusing. If you think the instructions are wrong, discuss at WT:RM. Andrewa (talk) 02:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
        • Why do you always have to come in with aggressive comments directed at me. This is now the second time you've commented at me on a talk page in an unwarranted condescending tone, when I had never directed such a comment at you prior ever before and my replies have always been fairy neutral. There are a lot more WP:CIVIL ways to inform people of guidelines and policies (there are hundreds if not thousands of guideline/policy essays and the majority of people have not read them all, let alone remember them all) instead of being so aggressive and condescending. A comment such as "Hey RedPatch, just so you're aware, this guideline exists which says XYZ". Instead, you immediately use the words "VIOLATE" and "EXPLICIT" as if it as intentional, when my comment clearly states that it was unintentional in advance and I was acting in good faith. RedPatch (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support moves but not the two-way DAB. Hatnotes will suffice. Creating a DAB creates an unnecessary imposition on the closer to investigate existing links to it. Andrewa (talk) 02:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.