Talk:Sacred cow

Split to Sacred cow and Cattle in religion

This article was split into two articles, Sacred cow for the idiom "sacred cow", and Cattle in religion for the religious status of cows (and bulls) in various religions (mostly South Asian religions currently). Discussion for this move is preserved on Talk:Cattle in religion. -kotra (talk) 17:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Wiktionary

It seems to me that this article belongs at Wiktionary, and might as well be deleted from WP unless there's a chance that it can somehow expanded (which I don't think is ever going to happen...what more is there to say on this term?). Would anyone object to moving this to Wiktionary and deleting this article? (And, if you don't object, can someone remind me how to do that? I can't remember where to find the appropriate template.) —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 05:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the move and subsequent deletion. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 06:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I've added the needed tag.--Ghostexorcist (talk) 06:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

There is already an entry in wiktionary, but given the previous split, we're probably better off with a soft redirect and a hatnote. The interwiki links are also important. While they seem to have been added tot he other article as well, those on other wiki's still point here. --Tikiwont (talk) 11:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I like your solution, I think the soft redirect and the interwiki is the best way to go about it. Thanks, —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 14:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

No objections to the shortening to just a wiktionary reference here. -kotra (talk) 17:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

What links here

I took a look at the list of articles that link here. The list included, and probably always will, a mixture of articles that use the term metaphorically and others that are intending to link to a discourse on cattle in religion. So I think having this laid out as a disambiguation page is the way to go. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 06:35, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Re this and the recent editing over whether this should be a dab page or redirect... I also supported having it as a dab, but if it's going to be problematic one other solution would be to have it as a redirect and put a hatnote at the top of Cattle in religion linking to the wikt entry on sacred cow. (Similar to what is at Institutionalization (psychology).) rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 12:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You don't really have dabs if there's only two meanings.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 13:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You can if neither one is a clear "primary" meaning, per WP:DAB. But, like I said above, an alternative would be a redirect and a hatnote. It's just that if a redirect is done, I think for navigational purposes a hatnote is also needed, since someone searching for the term "sacred cow" might really be looking for the dicdef. 129.237.62.207 (talk) (User:Rjanag, from public computer) 14:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Rjanag. WP:DAB makes it clear that a dab page doesn't have to have more than two meanings. A redirect plus a hatnote on Cattle in religion would not necessarily be a bad option, as long as the editors of Cattle in religion are OK with it. But I'm thinking that for the sake of people typing "sacred cow" into a search engine in an effort to understand what the term means, it is better to have a Sacred cow landing page as people can recognize easily that a result titled "Sacred cow" will answer their question. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

You folks are missing one key detail: Cattle in religion discusses the term "sacred cow": see Cattle in religion#Metaphorical sacred cows. No disambiguation is needed because both meanings are covered in the same article. -kotra (talk) 18:24, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Way, way down the article. How many readers are going to look that far? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

That's true. That's why we should have it link directly to the section, like Underpromotion does. -kotra (talk) 19:41, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I got to this stub not looking for cows in religion but interested instead in the historical origins of the phrase, which are absent. I suggest someone add them, or if they are indeed adequately described in a section of the CiR article link there thusly. Perhaps send everything directly to CiR and at the top of that page add a small notice along the lines of "If you are interested in the metaphor, see section CiR#Metaphor Origins" or what have you. 218.25.32.210 (talk) 07:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I like that idea. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 16:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Done: [1] -kotra (talk) 18:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sacred cow (idiom)

Someone deleted the section about the idiom (not metaphor) from Cattle in religion. I have rescued the deleted section as a new article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sacred cow (idiom). 69.3.72.9 (talk) 18:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Article now Sacred cow (idiom). For reference, the article now at Cattle in religion started out at the page name Sacred cow. Discussion of the idiom (rather than literal sacred cows) is archived on Talk:Cattle in religion/Archive 1. 69.3.72.9 (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)