Talk:Saint Anselm College

Saint Anselm College User Box

I created a Saint Anselm College alumni box for other alumni editors! Enjoy :)

It looks like this:

SAC This user attended Saint Anselm College Image in infobox To anyone, but in particular @RaphaelQS:. You indicated that "we use the seal in the image feel of the INFOBOX of colleges". I'm presuming this is some convention agreed upon by editors somewhere and I don't disbelieve you but I did a very cursory sampling of colleges and it is far from universal. I even check some featured articles and many had a logo or some image other than the seal. Perhaps a convention is to use a seal if it's available and use some other image if there is no seal available. The man may not be a need to review the guideline governing this, but I want to explain why I replaced the seal with a logo in this particular case. It wasn't a whim. A representative of the school contacted us because there have been incidents of misuse (per wp:beans I'd prefer not to go into detail) and they requested that the logo rather than the seal. I fully understand that this is our encyclopedia not there encyclopedia and we can decide what is the most appropriate information to include in the article subject to some limitations such as legal limitations. I see this is very analogous to privacy concerns, where we remove information such as month and day of birth date and home addresses even though they might be supportable by reliable sources. I understand that other schools have seals, but I also believe I know that the same problems might not occur for those schools, so I think we should accede to the request be used. I removed the seal but I have not yet replaced it with a logo awaiting this discussion on how this should be handled.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:05, 2 October 2018 (UTC) We are using the seal in this field of the infobox for almost all the other colleges with some exceptions, notably the colleges with a shield/coat of arms (like the Ivy League or the British universities). --RaphaelQS (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2018 (UTC) @RaphaelQS: In an odd coincidence, I looked first at a couple schools at random that did not have a seal, then decided to look at FA, and looked at Dartmouth, then Duke University. Too small a sample size, but there definitely are some exceptions. However, you haven't responded to the main reason for the removal. Is it your opinion that Wikipedia has the right to enforce some arbitrary convention even when there's some evidence that it causes real harm?--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:58, 2 October 2018 (UTC) "there definitely are some exceptions" Again, only the colleges with a shield/coat of arms (both Dartmouth and Duke are using a shield). "Is it your opinion that Wikipedia has the right to enforce some arbitrary convention even when there's some evidence that it causes real harm?" I don't have any evidence that any real harm is being done to anyone. Some colleges complained about the use of their seal in their article a few years ago because, they claimed, it could be used to create fake diplomas, but no one cared and they were laughed away. --RaphaelQS (talk) 07:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)