Talk:Saint Louis, Oregon

Latest comment: 13 years ago by The Hankerchief in topic Location

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Hopefully, someone else will come in and fill out more information. I don't have any more information about this town, and I don't yet understand how to put up requests for articles. Legend has it that St. Louis served, for a brief time, as the capital of Oregon. Maybe whoever fills this page out can either confirm this legend or put it to rest for once. -- Andrew Parodi 10:31, 20 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

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The wording added to the effect that the location of the place is uncertain is odd. Like many small towns, the buildings are strung out along the road, but the community is centered on the crossroads of St. Louis Rd and Manning Rd. The former P.O. was at the crossroads here: 45°07′21″N 122°56′32″W / 45.1226192°N 122.9423190°W / 45.1226192; -122.9423190 (Saint Louis Post Office (historic)), it remained in service at that location from 1860 until 1901. (this is per Oregon Geographic Names--I don't have time to add the info to the article at the moment) The church and cemetery are the property just NW of the crossroads. (Google is giving me grief as usual, so I can't show you the coords of the exact location on the sattelite map right now.) I've seen many USGS listings that have more than one set of coordinates, why not pick one (I'd go with the coord EncMstr added, which like many small towns, correspond with the location of the P.O.), or just put the average coords in the template, but leave out the explanation. It makes it sound like we lost track of the place and isn't necessary. Katr67 (talk) 13:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

GNIS gives two points for the city, but they are quite close together, about 3*79m = 777 ft (see WP:GEO#Precision). Click "Map of all coordinates" at right to see these three points plotted:
45°07′21″N 122°56′32″W / 45.1226192°N 122.9423190°W / 45.1226192; -122.9423190 (Saint Louis gnis point 1)
45°07′32″N 122°56′28″W / 45.1256747°N 122.9412079°W / 45.1256747; -122.9412079 (Saint Louis gnis point 2)
45°07′22″N 122°56′30″W / 45.1226470°N 122.9417635°W / 45.1226470; -122.9417635 (Saint Louis article average point). Averaging the points is kinda odd. It doesn't look like the average latitude is an average of the gnis points: what data values were used to average? —EncMstr (talk) 17:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
Here are the coords of the St. Louis church:
45°07′24″N 122°56′34″W / 45.123406°N 122.942644°W / 45.123406; -122.942644 (St. Louis Catholic Church)
And here are the coords for Saint Louis, Oregon, given by the GNIS-based source that I often use (http://nwdata.geol.pdx.edu/OR-GIS/PlaceNames/):
45°07′22″N 122°56′28″W / 45.12278°N 122.94111°W / 45.12278; -122.94111 (Coordinates of St. Louis per PSU database)
These seem very off, but might also be an averaged point. Katr67 (talk) 19:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

I grew up on Manning Road near St. Louis; my grandmother still owns the cattle ranch on the other side of Ferschweiler Lane. The former schoolhouse (across the road from Ferschweiler Lane) is now a residence, owned by friends of ours, and as of May 25th, 2011, only the church, the cemetery (at the end of Dorion Lane) and the old Grange Hall (next to the church at the intersection of Manning Road and Dorion Lane) remain in operation. I don't have exact coordinates for the location, but I know the area well. (St. Louis actually has two ZIP codes, 97071 (Woodburn) and 97026 (Gervais), little fun fact for you there. Another fun fact: Due to our close proximity to (and risk of noise pollution from) the Woodburn Dragstrip, everyone in our area gets free tickets to events.)

If you'd like to know anything else, just ask.

The Hankerchief (talk) 10:34, 25 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding undated comment added 10:34, 25 May 2011 (UTC).Reply