Talk:Saint symbolism

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Evrik in topic Expanding the list


Complete listing of saints

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Does anyone know of a good source for more saint symbols? Are there any more?evrik 01:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

More sources

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  • "Specialty Expressions: Symbols of Saints".
  • "Symbols of Saints".
  • "Symbolism".
  • "Painting Angels, Saints and Their Symbols".

This page has some great information that can be added as well. --evrik (talk) 20:59, 22 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Blessed Virgin Mary

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Why is the Blessed Virgin Mary not included in this article? She is the most important of the saints according to Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox teachings. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

AGREE! I have been looking for info about symbolic poses of her statues for ages, come here, and can't even find a MENTION of her! Sign me Flabbergasted. 19:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.206.230 (talk)

--evrik (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

With due respect, but I regard this as rather confusing, especially as it is all about the same saint but with different clothing/endowment. Most, if not all, of these Marian titles or images have their own articles.--Medusahead (talk) 08:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Each one is slightly different. The Virgen of Guadalupe looks different than Our Lady of Lourdes. This article is about Symbolism and how to recognize people by their attributes. Not sure why this might be confusing. --evrik (talk) 15:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Just as I wrote: because it's not meant to distinguish different saints by their attributes, it is all the same saint. So in my humble opinion the "different looks" of the BMV should be mentioned in the respective articles. Since there are so many different images and apparitions of Mary, one would not know where to stop. The article Saint symbolism would be completely overloaded. Furthermore, hardly anyone would have difficulties to distinguish the Mother of God from any other saint. Alternatively, an article only about Marian attributes could be a good idea. --Medusahead (talk) 08:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
The evangelists have specific iconographical symbols (lion, bull, eagle, man); as do certain saints, i.e. Joseph (lily), Claire of Assisi (monstrance) to distinguish them (particularly in statues or stained glass windows). The section on Mary is a series of (almost interchangable) descriptions, not attributes. Some of these are nothing more than a local representation of a wider cult, i.e. Aparecida is Mary as the Immaculate Conception. If one were to make a gallery of most of these without an identifying title, I doubt very many people could distinguish one from another. On the other hand, Our Lady of Guadalupe would never be mistaken for Our Lady of Mt Carmel. Manannan67 (talk) 06:27, 12 August 2024

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Expanding the list

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In Talk:Saint symbolism/Archive 2 I have placed a box with the attributes of mnay saints noit already on this list. I will move it over as I can. --evrik (talk) 19:28, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Please make sure to care for the form of this list it means a lot of work to harmonize it with the existing data, thank you. I also wonder if it makes sense to expand the list extensively by saints who seem to have no specific attributes but just a cassock (this could be nearly every priest). --Medusahead (talk) 08:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

I have completed the integration of the 1600 entries from the list above onto the pages. It got so large, that I had to split the work into four pages. Now, it would be good to start three tasks: 1) citing all the new entries; 2) standardizing the language and the grammar; and better using the Stracke and Rabenstein sources to clean up their many entries. --evrik (talk) 15:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply