Talk:Salammoniac
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Sal ammoniac is a chemical that cleans metals. you also can use it for building batteries.
The paragraph about "stained and leaded glass manufacture" was useful to me, so I put it back. A rewording would be preferred to a deletion.
Merge with ammonium chloride
editThis article should be merged with Ammonium Chloride. Dr. Morbius 19:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Partial Oppose -- I agree that parts should be merged into Ammonium Chloride, parts of the uses section as it more appropriately to the chemical A. C. Most of the article should stay though and be rewritten to reflect the fact that this article is about the Mineral Sal ammoniac and not the Chemical compound Ammonium Chloride. --Kevmin 07:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Rename article
editThe article should be renamed to 'Sal Ammoniac', as opposed to 'Salammoniac' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.243.117.242 (talk) 13:37, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree, but don't know how to carry this out, keep the edit history, and reverse the redirect.--Wcoole (talk) 20:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- Moved. Its title is now consistent with the spelling used in the page. Waerloeg (talk) 13:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't agree. It's an IMA valid name, as sulphur (native)
- Name changed from sal ammoniac: Burke E A J (2008) Tidying up mineral names: an IMA-CNMNC scheme for suffixes, hyphens and diacritical marks, The Mineralogical Record 39, 131-135
- --Chris.urs-o (talk) 13:42, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't agree, too. IMA approved name is Salammoniac and not Sal ammoniac. The same naming is on mindat.org and other trustworthy sources. So the article should be moved back. -- Ra'ike talk de-user 11:25, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Historic medical use
editI removed the unreferenced description of blowing the powder down someone's throat as a historic medical treatment, since someone might try it and get powder in the lungs, in the eyes or on the skin. The MSDS for ammonium chloeide says it is hazardous: [1]. Edison (talk) 23:11, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Confusing sentence
editThere is listed a sentence
Sal ammoniac has also been used in the past in bakery products to give cookies a very crisp texture, but that application is rapidly dying from the general disuse of it as an ingredient.
That sentence is more likely to belong to the Ammonium carbonate or Ammonium bicarbonate pages (both called baker's ammonia). I would suspect that there has been a misunderstanding about the vintage Ammonium compounds that find some use as food ingredients.
While baker's ammonia is becoming less common ammonium chloride use seems to be stable in the sweet trade though I have not heard it used as a raising agent before this entry, it is not reputed to decompose to gas as needed for a raising agent and it would likely add a characteristic taste which would be often be unwelcome in a baked product.
Addressed template concerns
editI have made substantial alterations to the page. The reference to Pliny has been updated to give the exact book, chapter and verse of his Natural History in which he describes hammoniacum, which is the etymological root for sal ammonica, ammonia and ammonium. I have included a further section that refers the doubt within the classical and chemistry community as to whether Pliny's hammoniacum is actually sal ammonica. Finally, I have added a further section discussing the first reference to sal ammonica (under its common name in the Middle Age, salis armoniaci) by the Pseduo-Geber in De inventione veritatis, who provides a prepartion which results in ammonium chloride. Consequently, I have taken the step of removing the template, as the issues presented (1. a reference that is no longer in the current article, and 2. an incorrect reference to Pliny) have been resolved. Stravaiger Archivist (talk) 20:53, 16 March 2019 (UTC) Stravaiger Archivist
Dyeing
editThere are almost no citations for this section, and the one that is there is about salted licorice, not dye. 2601:602:9B00:11B0:A57D:136A:87B1:E6F8 (talk) 21:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)