Talk:Salmiakki Koskenkorva

Homer and Kossu

Is the Simpsons story really true? I have never heard of this and as a Finn should be familiar with intoxicating drinks. 84.231.99.112 02:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, it isn't true - my parents claim to have made it by themselves in the 80's. Zalle 18:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Not true. Salmari has existed in form or another for decades in Finland. Before turkinpippuri it was made from apteekin salmiakki. (Pharmacy style ammonium chloride candy. A modern variation of similar kind of stuff can be found at: http://www.haganol.fi/ ) -- 212.213.204.99 14:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

It was made by ordinary people even in the 75 in Denmark. It has NOTHING to do with 'the simpsons'. Alchoholic "cough medicine" has been used for many many years. Can someone please rewrite the whole article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.48.185.54 (talk) 11:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Article name

Why Salmiakki Koskenkorva and not Salmiakkikoskenkorva (the correct finnish spelling)?

My guess is that Salmiakki Koskenkorva is the Alko's brand and salmiakkikoskenkorva is the homemade mixed drink with vodka and salmiakki - ie. Salmiakki Koskenkorva is bought from Alko while salmiakkikoskenkorva can be homemade, ordered from a bar or refer to the Alko's product. - G3, 09:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Proper nouns (erisnimi) are always capitalised in English, so, no--"Koskenkorva" is capitalised since it's a brand name, as is "Salmiakki Koskenkorva". Hence "Salmiakki Koskenkorva". If you absolutely wanted to write it as a compound word (yhdyssana), "Salmiakki-Koskenkorva" would be the correct form, as you can't have a capitalised name in the middle of a compound word. But that'd sound rather old-fashioned, I think, even if *technically* it'd be more correct, I guess. But colloquially speaking, yeah, "salmari" would be fine. (Oh, BTW--"Finnish" with a capital F is the correct spelling when we're talking about the names of languages in English. It's true that in Finnish, the names of languages or nationalities are not capitalised--"suomenkielinen," "virolainen", but in English, they are--"Finnish" and "Estonian".)--Snowgrouse (talk) 03:56, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Bogus Chemistry

The -OH group on ethanol is not basic at all--if anything, it's an extremely weak acid. The reason this stuff tastes salty is that NH₄Cl tastes salty.

Absolutely bogus chemistry. If hydroxyl groups were responsible for a bitter taste, why do glycol and glycerol, having twice and thrice as many hydroxyl groups as ethanol, taste sweet? Promonex 18:57, 30 October 2006 (CET)

Substances with multiple hydroxyl groups taste sweet. That is why glycerol tastes sweet instead of bitter. Alcohols indeed do behave not unlike bases in organic reactions, forming esters with carboxyl acids. Yet amines are far more basic than alcohols.194.89.192.24 12:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

That is utter nonsense. If you look at the mechanism of forming and ester, it is the oxygen atom of the alkohol that stays, so you migth well say that since the alkohol looses H⁺ and the carboxylic acid looses OH^-, making it the other way around. Alkohols are indeed both very weak acids and very weak bases, but so is water. Only one in 10⁹ or so alkohol molecules would be protonated, there is no evidence or reason to believe that this would affect the taste what so ever. We simply like the combined taste. Therefore I have taken the liberty remove the wrong statement.FysikPirat 11:04, 13 January 2007 (CET)

Dropshot

Hi, in The Netherlands we have a liqueur called 'Dropshot'. It seems to me that the liqueur in this topic, is the same as the lqueur in The Netherlands. But I am not sure. Perhaps that anybody knows if these two drinks are (almost) the same, or totally aren't? The Dutch liqueur has 20% alcohol, and can be mixed with cola, 7-up, energy-drink, and of course can be drank on the rocks. Rob --84.104.123.100 17:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Nowhere near. From someone who just had a sip. 62.106.49.137 (talk) 22:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Teens and Salmiakki Koskenkorva

According to my recollection the product was shelved after several incidents of teenagers drinking hard liquor and passing out in the cold weather resulting in severe cases of hypothermia - not because of cardiac arrests or other heart problems. Can't find any references though... 194.241.175.171 10:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

That "teen" was really a "professional" alcoholic over 40 years old. But the tabloids had a headline "My son drank Salmiakkikossu, passed out in snow and died". The article did tell the truth, but people tend to only remeber the headlines. --85.77.139.121 (talk) 19:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't know whether the heart problem case was a hoax, but it's true that when consuming several (up to/over 10) shots of 'salmari' in short time, one puts considerable strain to one's system, not only because of alcohol and sugar (Other "CandyBrandy" products make similar surprises occasionally), but also glychyrrizine(?), the active substance of licorice has the effect of increasing blood pressure!

Forgot to sign my previous comment; trying to edit it afterwards caused edit conflict... Found right spelling to the chemical above, it's in Wikipedia; 85.76.200.86 (talk) 21:29, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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