Talk:Salvatore Giunta (footballer)

disambiguating/redirect policy vs Salvatore Giunta (Medal of Honor)

Quoting from Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC:

Although a term may potentially refer to more than one topic, it is often the case that one of these topics is highly likely – much more likely than any other, and more likely than all the others combined – to be the subject being sought when a reader enters that term in the Search box. If there is such a topic, then it is called the primary topic for that term. If a primary topic exists, the term should be the title of (or redirect to) the article on that topic.

According to Special:WhatLinksHere, the number of Wikipedia articles that link to Salvatore Giunta (Italian football player) is ZERO. How is this retired soccer player that notable if nowhere else is the compendium of Wikipedia is he mentioned and linked to? I also note that no other Wikipedia projects besides the English and Italian ones have seen fit to have an article for him. It is true that the Giunta is not well represented, but if Randy Shughart, who won the Medal of Honor in Somalia in 1993 is any guide, Giunta can expect representation in other projects. Giunta is, in fact, more notable than Shughart in that Giunta is uniquely the only recipient in the last few decades to receive the award while alive. Please provide some supporting search engine and Wikipedia page hit stats if one is going to argue that these two subjects are at all comparable in terms of likelihood of being "enter[ed] into the Search box."Bdell555 (talk) 05:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

one needs to discuss and gain consensus on such a move. Lihaas (talk) 05:57, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Not when a subject is suddenly all over the news, and the earlier subject of the same name is obscure. The burden of explanation is on the party who thinks the less obvious action should be taken, and the action of creating a disambig page to handle traffic to the new subject (your apparent preferred action) is no less an action than having traffic come to the new subject with a note on that primary subject that directs traffic to the old, obscure subject as required. The need for a consensus supporting one's position, in other words, is not something you are exempt from any more than I am.Bdell555 (talk) 10:17, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I might add that there is another level of being primary, and that would be to have "Salvatore Giunta" refer to the solider without specifying "Salvatore Giunta (soldier)". As it stands now, they are essentially treated the same in titling, with the soldier just having some primacy in navigation.Bdell555 (talk) 10:20, 11 September 2010 (UTC)