Talk:Sam White (political adviser)

Tone of the article?

This reads like a recommendation letter or linkedin bio rather than an encyclopedia article. 2A04:4A43:576F:DC3E:0:0:2BC:BCFF (talk) 11:28, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

I've added a 'resume' tag to this, and have also amended it slightly to better reflect the existing information available as to the nature of White's departure.

Having looked into the edit history, an edit made in March 2023 by 'CherryRedDMS' (an account with a single edit, relating to this page) added a good deal of information, all of which is overwhelmingly positive as to Sam White (e.g. 'best known as' instead of 'was', challenging the narrative that he was sacked from the post (as is reported in both sources cited!) and noting the (highly favourable) change in polling numbers before he was moved on from his post.

I've only previously made little edits to Wikipedia for grammar, but I felt somewhat compelled to create an account to edit this, as it's surely not right to have Wikipedia pages written in such an overwhelmingly promotional manner of the subject. I assume it wouldn't be right to guess as to the identity of the account that made extensive positive (and in the case of disputing the sacking, inaccurate) edits, but it's clearly important to have Wikipedia pages describing minor contemporary political figures in neutral terms. Leodensians (talk) 20:27, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Apologies - I've spent a bit more time on the article and have removed a paragraph that appeared to be entirely gratuitous (several sentences from Starmer speaking about White when it was announced White was leaving the role), and have also toned down some of the other over-the-top language that didn't seem to fit with the tone of Wikipedia.

Just to note that the Guardian and Times both reported he was 'sacked'/'axed' - the previous edits made by CherryRedDMS appeared to, for whatever reason, fall back onto the fairly anodyne statements put out by the party when White was being moved on, and used this boilerplate language (entirely common when party members are being moved on - it's rare that a party will say they've sacked someone) to dispute the reports in two trusted sources that White was sacked.

I also note that Starmer said "this is not the time for complacency or caution" when White was being moved on - but just as I assume Wikipedia isn't for promotional pages, it is also presumably not for hatchet jobs!

There's probably more that could be done with this page to make it more neutral - it still probably goes into a bit too much detail (in my opinion), but I wanted to see whether people were happy with these original edits before making any further pruning. Leodensians (talk) 20:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)