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On 11 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Short Samoan tree snail to Samoana abbreviata. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 11 February 2024

Latest comment: 8 months ago9 comments7 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Leaning consensus to move to the scientific name as the current name is not too common either. (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann ^(Talk) 02:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Short Samoan tree snail → Samoana abbreviata – Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the common name is used enough to warrant it being the page title instead of the scientific name. 0x16w (talk) 07:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Kj cheetham (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I mean, fragile tree snail isn't even a redirect, scientific name (Samoana fragilis) is used instead. 0x16w (talk) 07:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'd like to see more evidence that the scientific name is the common name... given that there don't seem to be other vernacular titles commonly used at all. The IUCN red list uses Short Samoan Tree Snail as its main title. — Amakuru (talk) 11:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'd definitely support a move to the scientific name; "Short Samoan tree snail" is not the same name as IUCN's Short Samoan Tree Snail, as differences in capitalisation matter. A move to Short Samoan Tree Snail (as IUCN's standard name) could well be supportable, but too many in the upper echelons of wikipedia's hierarchy would object (one of the main reasons I hardly ever edit on wikipedia now) . . . MPF (talk) 12:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Not sure why the capitalisation is important in this case (other than for the usual grammatical rules). Many articles reference IUCN for vernacular names, but the IUCN capitalises every word, as is their style presumably. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Above comments copied from WP:RMTR. -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Weak oppose: Not too worried either way, but leaning oppose as like the name. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:18, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support. The scientific name better meets the article title WP:CRITERIA. It is WP:CONSISTENT with the other Samoana species (and the vast majority of other snail species). It is NATURAL; there are no incoming links from any articles that solely link the vernacular name, and there are more page views going to the scientific name redirect than the vernacular name title. Scientific name titles are more WP:PRECISE than vernacular names (IUCN vernacular names aren't always unique to a single species, although that doesn't seem to necessarily be an issue in this case). This article gets less than 1 view a day. Obscure species of organisms often don't have any commonly used vernacular names. It is not Wikipedia's place to attempt to popularize a rarely used vernacular name for a poorly known organism. Plantdrew (talk) 02:48, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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