Talk:Samori Ture

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Laurier in topic Naming Conventions

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I just translated article Samory Touré in from the French wiki--obviously I should have done a better search for variant spellings before translating. It does however seem to have some useful info. Anyone who wants to merge some of it in is welcome to take what they want and delete the rest...

Dvyost 28 June 2005 18:07 (UTC)

Merged, cleaned, etc... --Dvyost 8 July 2005 03:22 (UTC)

Aggressive French

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The word 'aggressively' was removed from line 22 as POV when describing the French expansion of the 1870s. It's actually a fair descriptor, but I'll have to get documentation to back up this assertion before I put it back in. European expansion efforts have been described as imperialistic in a number of sources by a variety of types of authors. This isn't a castigation of the French particularly so much as a statement about the socio-political norms in 19th century Europe. LTC David J. Cormier (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Naming Conventions

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Samori should be referred to consistently in the article. The entry is Samori, but that particular spelling isn't actually among the versions listed in the first para. Then in some sections he's referred to as Samore, in others as Samori. 71.179.70.36 (talk) 00:52, 30 July 2012 (UTC) chrisReply

What is the best translitteration of his name ? Samori or Samory Toure ? In the french historical litterature, I have the impression that we can read only "Samori" (without Touré) or "Samory Touré" with his name expressed. What do you think is the best one and why ? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.244.52.91 (talk) 16:39, 21 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
The French article has the correct spelling of Samory Touré. This is mostly anecdotal, but I was born in that part of the world and learned about him in school while growing up. The above name is the only one I know him by. Seeing his name spelled as "Ture", which is a variation on this last name I'd never seen before back home, is what drove me to visit the talk page. Numkalcon (talk) 01:54, 26 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Any news on the name spelling? Laurier (talk) 14:05, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Mythology?

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I think it would be interesting if the legacy section for Samori Ture included some of the local legends about him. Jan Jansen's book "Epic Adventures" describes the symbolic important of Samori in Africa still today.For certain tribes, stories about Samori and his exploits have become an important part of local mythology. These stories, such as the French capturing Samori's voice to play for other groups, shed important light on how France's occupation is viewed by the occupied places. Additionally, the debate about whether or not the story of Samori is considered an “epic” could be its own section, possibly linking to an article about an African epic. Afcivdavidluiz (talk) 09:21, 16 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

That may well be part of his legacy - suitable for the Legacy section - or, if you have a particular story or film in mind, a part of the Popular culture section. LTC (Ret.) David J. Cormier (talk) 17:42, 17 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment

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Covers all the major points, well written, refs. Needs some expansion in structure of his state (which was interesting: he moved the entire thing a hundred + miles east at one point), connections to previous Malinke state structures vs connection to fula jihad states (little bit of both), his reputation in the areas he ruled (ranges from outright hate by much of the population -- both now and at the time -- to view by many in the post colonial world that he was a hero). T L Miles (talk) 17:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

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samorys embassy names

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hi, I just reading this article and I see that wassolon empire build an embassy in Freetown, and we're absolutely not know that before. can you help me to know his/her names? is it possible to mentioned his name on the article itself? thanks! ߒߓߋ߫ ߝߏߝߣߊ߫ (talk) 09:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)Reply