Talk:Samuel Jacobs (journalist)

Before moving it into draft space

@Hasan AB123, Another Believer, Fyunck(click), Valereee, Gerda Arendt, JarrahTree, Bovineboy2008, and Grimes2: Hi, I am pinging all of you because Hasan AB123 asked you on your talk pages to move the draft to the article space. I think that there are a few things that should be done beforehand. If you are busy, please go on about your business, but thanks for checking this!

Here are the items that I think would be beneficial:

• Creating the Wikidata item. I will go ahead & create the Wikidata item & start adding properties
• Add {{Authority control}} to the draft. It will only pick up the Worldcat Identities ID, np-jacobs, samuel posin, when it promoted to the article space, but having that template in place is always a nice visual queue about notability.
• Add categories either commented out like <!--[[Category:Time (magazine) people]]--> or by using a colon in just after the opening square brackets like [[:Category:Time (magazine) people]]. Either way, this prevents the inclusion of the draft in the actual category & can be adjusted immediately upon promotion to the article space. I suggest looking at Edward Felsenthal to get started on appropriate categories.
• Samuel Jacobs's middle name is Poisin. I triangulated this. Samuel Jacobs '09 indicated that his thesis title is Walter Weyl and the Progressive Mind: The Promise and Problems of the New Democracy ".& the Worldcat item for this, OCLC 961833488 & the WorldCat identities record, lists his name as "Samuel Posin Jacobs". Let's work this into the draft.

I will start working on the Wikidata item presently. Peaceray (talk) 17:28, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank You Hasan AB123 (talk) 17:39, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Is this guy even notable? All the sources are from the companies he works for talking about his promotions. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:11, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

That criteria would be found under WP:JOURNALIST. There was a failed proposal, WP:Notability (journalists) that might be relevant reading. It has been submitted & is currently appearing in Wikipedia:WikiProject Journalism/Article alerts &Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/Article alerts, so it might be best to wait for those folks to evaluate it.

Given the management level at Time magazine, if Jacobs is not yet notable, I do not think it would be long before he is. Peaceray (talk) 19:46, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@Fyunck(click): I note here that there are seven citations from six sources: Adweek, Politico, Folio, Talking New Media, Media Post, & Women's Wear Daily. Less than half of current citations are directly from sources with which Jacobs has a close relationship (employer or university). Peaceray (talk) 16:31, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

And those are routine coverage announcing a change of jobs. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:38, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

That is a different claim than the All the sources are pretty much company memos on his promotions. that you made in your {{PROD}}. Are you moving the goalposts? Peaceray (talk) 18:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I have done about as much as I can for the Samuel P. Jacobs Wikidata item located at wikidata:Q108588418. Peaceray (talk) 19:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)