Talk:Samuel Woodworth

Archive of old discussion (2005)

I would have to vote against completely merging Samuel Woodworth and the Old Oaken Bucket.

On the one hand, Samuel's career is certainly larger than the just the one poem. His other works, his landmark home, and his family collectively describe the poet in his historical and social context. Similar pages of other American poets include T. S. Eliot and E. E. Cummings.

On the other hand, the actual physical bucket that is handed to the winner of the Purdue vs. Indiana football game has a certain relationship to Samuel's life, but has a larger, different meaning to football fans. Its meaning is more like the Apple Cup, The Stanford Axe, or the Heartland Trophy. There are also similar pages for the Stanley Cup and the Americas Cup.

All and all, I think it would be a mistake to merge the two. That said, I'm sure that both pages could be vastly improved, for example, by including a list of the games between Purdue and Indiana and their results. Another idea is to tell the story of the physical bucket itself, similar to what is on the The Stanford Axe page. Brholden 23:00, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

I've made some improvements to both pages to help focus this page on his biography and to help focus the other page on the sports trophy. Brholden 00:45, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

The two pages are now distinct (this one is about the poet, the Old Oaken Bucket is about the trophy). Sufficient time for comment had passed, so I removed the merge notice. Brholden 19:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

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