Talk:San Bernardino Transit Center

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Opening date

Both official and independent reliable sources report the opening date of the San Bernardino Transit Center as Sept. 8, 2015. "opens to the public Sept. 8" "will open officially on September 8" "opens to the public on September 8" "when it opens Sept. 8 "opened on Sept. 8" "will open in September" "just opened to the public" (article dated September 8, 2015) "opening week (Sept. 8 – 11)" "September 8th opening" "Celebrating the San Bernardino Transit Center’s 1st Anniversary" (event in September 2016) James (^talk/_contribs) 19:24, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

The San Bernardino Express (sbX) SBTC station opened, along with the other 15 stations, when the line opened in April 2014. The train station opened on 16 December 2017. I agree a large portion of the center opened on September 2015 but there a total of 3 openings to this center. I have 3 articles where stating parts of the station opening. To suggest that the station opened on September 2015 is misleading and frankly, false. House1090 (talk) 23:29, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

I've provided a multitude of sources. Here are yours so far: this one does not even include the phrase "San Bernardino Transit Center", this one (a press release laundered through a local news outlet, by the way; the original is already cited here) explicitly states that facility was already "completed" at the time of rail service. Not to mention that you are violating BRD by repeatedly modifiying content that was stable for over two years prior to your return from hiatus. James (^talk/_contribs) 21:10, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

The point is that part of the center opened when the sbX line opened more than a year before the main TC opened up. Mentioning my return from hiatus is irrelevant, besides this article had the incorrect "official opening date" before I fixed it to September 2015. I do not know what personal problem you may have towards me, but reverting every edit (in many articles, may I add) I make is not collaborative. Instead try to arrive to a compromise and try to understand what I am trying to add, like the fact that the sbX's SBTC station along with the other 15 stations opened in April 2014. This is not disputed this is fact. House1090 (talk) 23:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I agree that platforms for the sbX system opened to the public in 2014. However, I cannot agree that the facility known as the San Bernardino Transit Center opened -- even partially -- in 2014. This story, written after sbX had opened, still discusses the center's opening in the future tense. The Omnitrans April 2014 system map, updated to include the bus rapid transit line, does not mention the existence the center as a transfer facility, instead describing a "Fourth Street Transit Center". Other Omnitrans material prior to the 2015 opening also distinguishes between the platforms and the opening of the facility, variously using the terms "E Street at Rialto Avenue Transit Station" or "future site" of the facility. James (^talk/_contribs) 16:13, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

The youtube source is invalid as that video also refers to the "Inland Center Mall Station" as "'E' Street at North Mall". As for the second source, the mention does not exist because no other buses were stopping at the Rialto Avenue and E street location because it was not completed yet, as you have mentioned on numerous occasions. The distinction was made, by Omnitrans, to reduce confusion to let people know that even though the transit center platform was open, the REST of the transit center was not as it was still being built. House1090 (talk) 07:00, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

I agree that the video is outdated. At the time of the video, the stop was not referred to as the center, in support of the assertion that the facility titled SBTC did not exist at that time. I also agree that the center was not included in the 2014 map because of construction. If a major facility like the center had formally existed at the time of the video, my assertion is that it would have been included in such a map. James (^talk/_contribs) 22:31, 19 January 2018 (UTC)