Talk:San Diego Gulls

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Yosemiter in topic Rivalries

Proposed Move

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-> Talk:San Diego Gulls (disambiguation)#Proposed Move --CASportsFan (talk) 19:36, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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The current logo on the page is out of date and not the team's official or current logo.

Please see current logo attached.

@Loconnorgulls: - What specifically is wrong with it? Outside the formatting being better in the old one (better resolution, properly formatted background), the only difference I can spot was the removal the Registered Trademark symbol due to the background removal. It also currently matches the one on their website. For comparison: Recently uploaded as "correct" vs. the logo currently on the page. Yosemiter (talk) 19:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
Marked this edit request as answered. Altamel (talk) 03:33, 7 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Yosemiter: - The logo that is currently present on the Wikipedia page has a two-tone orange color in "GULLS." This is an outdated version of the logo that is not in circulation by the team anymore. You can find the correct logo at SanDiegoGulls.com.
@Loconnorgulls: I put in a request for a quality image, but honestly, the logo there now isn't exactly a misrepresentation either. I had others look at it and couldn't see the difference. The two-tone in the old logo is so slight that I could not even tell it was two-tone until I blew it up on a 17" monitor, and even then had to look fairly carefully. Yosemiter (talk) 02:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Rivalries

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The San Diego Gulls consider the Ontario Reign, the Los Angeles Kings AHL affiliate, to be their main rivals. According to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hockey_League_rivalries#Anaheim_Ducks_vs._San_Jose_Sharks the Anaheim Ducks and San Jose Sharks are rivals. with that being said could we also conclude that the San Diego Gulls and San Jose Barracuda are rivals because of an inherited rivalry of parent clubs? Joker4lifead (talk) 05:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Joker4lifead: Rivalries are not necessarily inherited. Syracuse and Utica have a decent rivalry, but their parent teams are Tampa and Vancouver, which are not rivals. In minor leagues, rivalries are usually created for marketing purposes, which would mean there should be sources (such as the Gulls' Rivalry Night against the Reign). We should never assume, sourcing should always be used when claim a "rival". I removed the Barracuda comment because the unsourced statement was essentially "because the team lost to the Barracuda in the playoffs once, they are their rivals". If sources are saying they are rivals, then it would be fine, but making an assumption is not. Yosemiter (talk) 12:34, 17 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Yosemiter: I agree with "because the team lost to the Barracuda in the playoffs once, they are their rivals" in no way does that make them rivals. I think the original person who changed it to that was thinking along the same lines as me. The example you give is a good one, Tampa and Vancouver will never be rivals, for a number of reasons. Syracuse and Utica have a decent rivalry I think in part due to both of them being in New York. As for the Gulls- Sharks rivalry, for now, we can call it an unofficial one. What do you think of this? https://www.fearthefin.com/2017/5/5/15554656/barracuda-vs-gulls-game-1-preview-rivalry-renewed-in-round-2 http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-san-diego-gulls-san-jose-barracuda-ahl-20180105-story.htmlJoker4lifead (talk) 05:50, 19 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Joker4lifead: They are bit of a stretch with the author's journalistic liberal use of "rivalry" (as there is no real explanation by the author other than being in the same division, so they play each other often). But the sources are likely enough to include SJ in the section and I won't have any problem with it. Yosemiter (talk) 12:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)Reply