Talk:Sands of time (idiom)

Requested move 28 November 2019

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to make changes at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 09:02, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

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• Sands of time (idiom) → Sands of time
• Sands of time → Sands of Time

– Per WP:DIFFCAPS / only usage of this term that is lowercase. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:08, 28 November 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. – bradv🍁 05:07, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose - unlike the situations for when the only usage has a specific capitalization and editors argue that a reader writing that specific way can only mean they are searching for that title, the same cannot be said for all lowercase. That's just how people search. This helps no one other than you for some reason (and it's a bit annoying that I'll need to copy/paste my same argument to all nominations now). --Gonnym (talk) 23:45, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per Gonnym and because the concept of the sands of time isn't an encyclopedic topic, and the phrase as such (which might not be either, really, per WP:NOTDICT) is unlikely to be the primary topic, compared with the frequency with which it's a pop culture reference, especially to the Sheldon novel and (among the younger set) the video game's subtitle. I wouldn't oppose moving the DAB page to be capitalized, though, since most entries are.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:20, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom although the other uses of the upper case do get a comparable number of views (846) than the idiom (903) [[1]] it seems reasonable to move since this is indeed the only lower case topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:27, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support. Meaning of the phrase. Hyperbolick (talk) 20:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support both per WP:DIFFCAPS the idiom page, and WP:DABNAME: "The spelling that reflects the majority of items on the page is preferred to less common alternatives" for the disambiguation page. -- Netoholic @ 19:13, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom and above comments. There might be a case for deleting the phrase's article, but as long as it's here it's the only thing using the lower case title. Station1 (talk) 08:41, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per Gonnym and because the present title seems perfectly satisfactory. It could do with a hatnote however. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom. All titles using this phrase are references to the idiom. BD2412 T 23:23, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:NOTDICT. While "all titles using this phrase are references to the idiom", it doesn't mean that encyclopedia readers are looking for an article on the idiom. Also nb User:Gonnym's comment on how people search. —  AjaxSmack  16:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
  • They probably aren't looking for a disambiguation page either. We should teach our readers to apply a measure of common sense with respect to their expectations about titles. BD2412 T 03:43, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
    • I think both being the only lower case topic and all titles (using the upper case) being references to this are enough to justify this move. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:41, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support per WP:DIFFCAPS, which provides some close parallel examples. Narky Blert (talk) 16:55, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per Gonnym. The present arrangement is what suits readers best, and helps them find the topic they're looking for.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:59, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

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