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Cast Order
editCheck this before changing the order of cast billing. While both may get equal credits, it does not change the fact that Olyphant's name appears above Barrymore's. And in accordance with WP:TVCAST, this should also be reflected in this article.
I hope this clears up any misunderstandings, and prevents any future edit conflicts/wars.
LoMS talk 14:41, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- [1] in the official description, Barrymore is listed first. She should at least be listed first in the character list, if not the infobox as well. JDDJS (talk) 03:26, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- Per WP:TVCAST, "the cast listing should be organized according to the series original broadcast credits, with new cast members being added to the end of the list". Note "original broadcast credits". That means as aired, and that means Olyphant first. --AussieLegend (✉) 03:46, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks - it does clear it up nicely, and I don't see any edit wars lately! Cheerio, CapnZapp (talk) 20:15, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- Like other series, (Rules of Engagement), he might be above but she is left. It's a conundrum Dave Rave (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Plagiarism?
editThe Plot section has
- Married couple Sheila and Joel are real estate agents in Santa Clarita, California. The couple's lives take a dark turn after Sheila goes through a transformation – becoming a zombie who feeds on human flesh.
The official Netflix trailer is
- Married couple Sheila and Joel (Barrymore and Olyphant) are real estate agents in Santa Clarita, California. The couple’s lives take a dark turn after Sheila goes through a transformation; in a good way.
- (See mention at CBR)
You can find similar wording at TV Guide and Watch Series.
There may be other stuff in the article that is plagiarized. I have not done a thorough search.
-- MC
Season colours
editFor series with more than one season, season colours are based upon separate promotional content and/or home media release cover art that is specific to that season. For this series: Season 1, Season 2. -- AlexTW 06:01, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- The original colors were based off the logo for the U.S promotional poster. The T.V. series was released from the U.S. as in a U.S. T.V. show, not an Australian T.V. show. I think it should followed the U.S. promotional poster.Lbtocth 08:21, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Lbtocth: Can you link the U.S. promotional posters for both seasons? As far as I can tell, there is nothing in the ones that I linked that stated that they were Australian. Or are you saying that because I'm Australian, and you're assuming that they must be too? -- AlexTW 08:29, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- Here we go! Here's the "U.S. promotional posters": Season 1 from Netflix US Facebook, Season 2 from the official Santa Clarita Diet US Twitter. Exactly the same as I linked previously. -- AlexTW 09:06, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Lbtocth: Can you link the U.S. promotional posters for both seasons? As far as I can tell, there is nothing in the ones that I linked that stated that they were Australian. Or are you saying that because I'm Australian, and you're assuming that they must be too? -- AlexTW 08:29, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- Different countries may have different promotional posters. I also want to point out that there is nothing wrong with using the logo colors of promotional posters. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Formatting.--Lbtocth 19:40, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- And yet, I just proved that I never linked the "Australian" versions, they were always the U.S. versions. Logo colours are not season specific. Promotional posters are. If you would like, I can make this a full discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television to show that the consensus is to use promotional posters for separate seasons. -- AlexTW 02:38, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
- Example 1: Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Example 2: Haters Back Off, and Example 3: F Is for Family. The colors that you picked were not even close to colors of the promotional posters. There are no rules of requiring to use ONLY promotional posters for each season as you can see on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Formatting. Please also see WP:DEW.--Lbtocth 05:19, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
- And yet, I just proved that I never linked the "Australian" versions, they were always the U.S. versions. Logo colours are not season specific. Promotional posters are. If you would like, I can make this a full discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television to show that the consensus is to use promotional posters for separate seasons. -- AlexTW 02:38, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
- Different countries may have different promotional posters. I also want to point out that there is nothing wrong with using the logo colors of promotional posters. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Formatting.--Lbtocth 19:40, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- Now, you say that the colours I picked "were not even close to colors of the promotional posters". Let's test that out! Here's my edit. Here's some TinEye Labs for you:
- Season 2. Offered colour: #E3B5A0 . Picked color: #D0987C . Colour contast between the two: 1.344, meaning extremely close.
- Season 1. Offered colour: #BCC5B8 . Picked color: #C3C8C0 . Colour contast between the two: 1.044, meaning extremely close.
- Myth: Busted! I think you'll find you're a bit wrong here.
- WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid reason, try again! But hey, if you want to go along that road, let's take a look at some examples that do conform: 12 Monkeys, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Blindspot, Daredevil, Doctor Who, Fear the Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Humans, IZombie, Jessica Jones, Killjoys, Legends of Tomorrow, Lucifer, Mr. Robot, Once Upon a Time, Preacher, Sherlock, Stranger Things, Supergirl, The 100, The Big Bang Theory, The Crown, The Flash, The Magicians, Vikings. That's only 25. I can list more if you like!
- Given that it was you who has reverted multiple editors for changing the colour, it is you who needs to be warned for WP:DEW. I recommend that you abide by the WP:CONSENSUS formed by Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television, in that the colours picked for separate seasons should be based on their promotional posters and/or home media releases; logos are only for one-season series. Looks like you need to be warned for WP:EW too, by the look of the numbers of times you've been reverting here. Nice try, though. Or am I "mansplaining" things to you again? By the looks of your talk page, it's not the first time you've tried to war over colours. -- AlexTW 07:46, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
- Excuse me? I am not the one who was changing colors just because I feel like it! My reverting edits have VALID reasons unlike others. In fact, most of them are WP:AGF. From the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Formatting, "Colors for the seasons are often selected based on the series logo, DVD or promotional artwork, or for other reasons." Just because you said so doesn't mean it is true unless you work for Wikipedia as in a paid employee. WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid reason like you said. You need to be warned for WP:EW as well. Where is the link to the WP:CONSENSUS formed by Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television that you never even put on here?--Lbtocth 18:58, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
- Now, you say that the colours I picked "were not even close to colors of the promotional posters". Let's test that out! Here's my edit. Here's some TinEye Labs for you:
- Except that you are. You're reverting multiple editors to colours that you prefer, over the WP:CONSENSUS of the WikiProject Television where it's agreed that separate seasons should be based on promotional posters. Talk pages are publicly accessible, especially when yours was already on my watchlist from our last encounter, so I recommend you delete the stalking accusation before it's considered a personal attack her WP:PA. Nice try trying to hide the talk page discussion by deleting it too. Series logo is for one-season series. DVD or promotional artwork is for multi-season series. You are the only one needed to be warned of WP:EW, as you are reverting constantly on this page. If you would like to find the discussions, you are more than welcome to, nobody is stopping you. So, the question is: Do you have a solid reason as to why the colours should remain the same as the logo, other than what you personally like? -- AlexTW 02:12, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Again. I still do NOT see the official discussions on WP:CONSENSUS of the WikiProject Television. Where is the link? There is no proof without the link to the discussions. Right now, you are WP:PA. I advise to delete your personal attack comments to me. -- Lbtocth 02:37, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- In addition, I wasn't changing the colors without following Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Formatting.-- Lbtocth 02:46, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- That's what archives are for. Stop trying to play the victim and copy me. You were. You were changing it to the non-season-specific series logo, which is for one-season series. I was changing it to the season-specific promotional posters, which is for multi-season series. Instead of arguing with someone who actually knows what they're talking about, I recommend you take the advice given to you and educate yourself, instead of stubbornly sticking to the wrong. -- AlexTW 02:52, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yet, it is not even in the archives as I can't even find it. Where is the link?-- Lbtocth 03:02, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- I am done with you, change it back to your preference of colors. We'll agree to disagree as I was following the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Formatting.-- Lbtocth 03:47, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- @AlexTheWhovian: It is not an agreement when I simply just give up. There is a difference between giving up and agreement. Putting words in my mouth is not an agreement.-- Lbtocth 14:47, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- That's what archives are for. Stop trying to play the victim and copy me. You were. You were changing it to the non-season-specific series logo, which is for one-season series. I was changing it to the season-specific promotional posters, which is for multi-season series. Instead of arguing with someone who actually knows what they're talking about, I recommend you take the advice given to you and educate yourself, instead of stubbornly sticking to the wrong. -- AlexTW 02:52, 26 March 2018 (UTC)