Talk:Sargasso Sea

Preserving

A matter worth discussing is how to go about preserving the Sargasso Sea by some kind of international marine or maritime agreement. Having worked in the international context of protection of the marine environment for many years, it appears evident that protection of marine areas, in particular on the high seas need strong advocacy from someone before the discussion even starts. Since no state claims sovreignity over these waste parts of the Atlantic Ocean, it will probabely not get it.

Is protection necesary? The area is within reach of the maritime trafic, including oil tankers en route from the Gulfs area tc. If, for some reason or the other the Sargasso Sea rea is used for changing ballast there are 2 threats, pollution and boinvasion.

I might be allone thinking of protection the Sargasso Area, bu it is stil my sincere opinion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.130.242 (talk • contribs)

That's all well and good, but Wikipedia isn't the proper forum. Please review WP:NOR, WP:NPOV and WP:NOT. Cheers, Tomer^TALK 04:13, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, I would have thought that a mention of any threats to it, or attempts to preserve it might be in order, if such things go beyond banter on this site and some organization or other has taken up the cause.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.218.28 (talk • contribs)

I'm no expert on this page, but 207.255.33.57's comments seemed like vandalism to me so I reverted them. If the section about the SSOO was deleted for a reason then feel free to revert, but it'd be best to state why on this page. RossMM 19:58, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Media reference

The Sargasso Sea is also a prominent element in the 1995 Dark Horse comic Indiana Jones and the Sargasso Pirates. It might be neat to add it to the list of media references, I remember reading that book as a teenager. http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/92-156/Indiana-Jones-and-the-Sargasso-Pirates-1-of-4 199.1.137.105 (talk)

The Sargasso Sea is mentioned during the first season of SeaQuest DSV (1993), Episode 9, "Bad Water". Commander Ford, Lucas and Dr. Westphalen end up trapped in the Sargasso Sea after their launch is destroyed by a fresh water sink hole. The episode has them in "the eye of a hurricane" as well because of all of the currents that surround the Sargasso Sea swirl around the Sea "but in the middle nothing moves, everything remains extremely calm". Quotes are script lines from the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.74.80.242 (talk) 06:09, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Another film series set in the Sargasso Sea is the three-part 2005 sci-fi effort The Triangle, which starts with Columbus and the crew of his three ships on 11th October 1492 witnessing a timeslip involving a modern-day cargo ship and the deadly effects the timeslip has on the ships' crew members.VapourGhost (talk) 17:39, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Axed Himilco

I've removed Himilco. How would a a guy known as a European coastal trader end up in the western Atlantic? 129.16.97.227 15:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

lifeless?

i suggest we remove the term "lifeless". There are few lifeless biotopes on earth and this is not one of them, there's floating seaweed and at least 2 species of large animals migrate there to have offspring, so it's more likely the sea there is quite rich in life. Also, why no image of the Sargasso surface? Shoombooly 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

While it is indeed not lifeless, the article does not claim it to be so. Only that people often think that.

129.16.97.227 12:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Modest Mouse Music Video

Why was the modest mouse music video reference deleted? It is the setting for an important cultural media event. (Lhenslee (talk) 06:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC))

I think it should be added again, perhaps under a category called Cultural References with other relevant references. Though not sure how proper that would be for wikipedia. -Enviropearson (talk) 19:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Map request

This article needs a better map, showing surrounding currents. I'll post some sources at Talk:Gyre. -- Beland (talk) 23:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I found a good map, but am not sure how to credit it. Looks like it is from National Geographic, but several webpages use it. One, Richard Corfield (who uses it as part of an online book it appears) said he found it on the web. You can see the image here(scroll down):

http://shs.westport.k12.ct.us/chia/caribbean/sargasso_sea.htm

I think it works better than current image used. --Enviropearson (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Organization of Page

As a start to updating this page, I reorganized it into the following subtopics:

-First two paragraphs are the intro, no subtitle
-Third paragraph is Ecology, also including bit about Craig Venter and plastics
-Fourth paragraph History
-Fifth paragraph Connection to the Bermuda Triangle

I think the North Sea article has a good layout that should be followed as it is a B rated article. Will be updating more later... -Enviropearson (talk) 19:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Reference Material

Good article to go through and find info on the Sargasso is here, from US NOAA:

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/general/lib/seagrass.html

One of the only books I could find on the Sargasso is this one: Teal, J. and M. Teal. 1975. The Sargasso Sea. Little, Brown, Boston, MA, 216 p. Enviropearson (talk) 02:07, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

This page is terrible.

Sorry if I am not writing in the proper form but just speaking as a user, this page is one of the worst Wikipedia

articles I have encountered. Even the vandalized pages usually have more information. It is poorly organized, poorly written, woefully incomplete, and loaded down with silly outdated cultural references that only very old white people could dream would interest a general audience. [Johnny Quest? If Johnny Quest visited the White House in episode 10, does that mean that Johnny Quest should be mentioned on the Wikipedia page for the White House? Just because you found a complete DVD set in a bin at Walmart doesn't mean anybody else cares.] Somebody should just delete the whole article and start over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.218.206 (talk) 23:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The Sargasso Sea isn't really featured in media often and its appearance in Johnny Quest was one of the more notable episodes. In fact, it was parodied by The Venture Brothers in "Ghosts of the Sargasso". So while it clearly means nothing to you, that obviously isn't true for everyone. Also, your comment isn't particularly constructive. If the article is incomplete, add material. If it is poorly written, rewrite it. At the very least, you could make helpful suggestions, rather than just say "This page is terrible"...Sheriffjt (talk) 21:53, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Reference Material II

reference foot note #1 does not work —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.17.207.221 (talk) 06:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

How True is Most of this Page?

The only link that shows proof of a garbage patch is #5 to a Greenpeace page. This link is then completely refuted in the Skeptoid episode that is linked to in the External Links. Is there even a garbage patch there? For real? I can't see it on Google Earth, and the Skeptoid guy makes a good point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.72.180 (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Google doesn't accurately show the surface of the ocean, as usually there's nothing to see but water....Sheriffjt (talk) 21:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Pictures?

I think this article would be vastly improved by the addition of one or more pictures of the sea itself. 69.106.225.50 (talk) 06:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Portuguese Discovery?

A link to a news website with the claim that "the Portuguese" found and named the Sargasso in the 15th century is not good enough. I've added the Portuguese exploration of the Azores as a possibility to when this happened and hope somebody can come up with a good citation and information but the sources I've looked up say that it was Columbus who discovered it.

Super-Sargasso Sea

This page should have a reference or a link to the Super-Sargasso Sea.184.147.242.92 (talk) 18:25, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Sea?

One thing I don't get from this page is in what sense this is a sea. I'm not saying the page or name is wrong, but it does conflict with what most people, myself included, would consider to be a sea.

Are there any knowledgable editors who could address that issue? Izuko (talk) 17:19, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

The Sargasso is a sea in the systems sense. Consider an island, an area of land surrounded by sea. In systems terms the sea and the land it surrounds are varying forms of energy with a clear boundary, a rapid change in density - the coastline. Here, the four currents surrounding the Sargasso are the clear identifiable boundary. The sea has some unique flora and fauna and some species, historically, recognize this location and its characteristics. These characteristics set it apart from the Atlantic Ocean surrounding it, so it is not too fanciful to think of the Sea as an island. I believe this allegory or figure is what gives the sense of mystery and may lead to its use in popular culture as stated. I think connecting with the popular culture has some validity but might be better employed by links - Jean Rhys's book, etc., rather than reducing the impact of what is an amazing ecosystem by direct inclusion. (81.107.145.86 (talk) 08:39, 27 November 2016 (UTC))

Fictitious reference

The Depictions in popular culture section, subsection Stories set within the Sea, cites "Victor Appleton's Don Sturdy novel, Don Sturdy in the Port of Lost Ships".

There is no such person as "Victor Appleton" -- as following the link to the Victor Appleton article will confirm. It was a pen name used by an entire stable of pulp writers. I submit that either the actual writer who was using the name for the cited novel should be identified as the proper author, or some mention should be made that Appleton is a faux person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.249 (talk) 01:56, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Team-B-Vital Improvement Drive

Hello all!

This article has been chosen as this week's effort for WP:Discord's #team-b-vital channel, a collaborate effort to bring Vital articles up to a B class if possible, similar to WP:Articles for Improvement. This effort will run for up to seven days, ending early if the article is felt to be at B-class or impossible to further improve. Articles are chosen by a quick vote among interested chatters, with the goal of working together on interesting Vital articles that need improving.

Thank you! -- ferret (talk) 00:04, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Etymology

Could someone clever include the origin of the word 'Sargasso' please? It is clear that the seaweed is named after the sea, but where does the word 'Sargasso' originate? Nick Michael (talk) 16:57, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Lost Continent movie

The Lost Continent movie (1968) is set in the Sargasso Sea - https://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Lost-Continent-Blu-ray/dp/B083MZ4H23#

(The more famous Lost Continent movie from 1961 is set in Atlantis). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.72.221 (talk) 17:14, 4 February 2024 (UTC)