Talk:Schmuck (surname)

Notability

Why on earth is this notable? At best its a disambig page for a few famous people with this last name. Why is a last name notable? This should be talking about the Yiddish word Schmuck which has been translated in to English. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 15:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Frank Schmuck

Is this a User:FrankSchmuck vanity page? --Coroebus 17:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

order

The persons with the last name schmuck- i have moved that section dwn to the bottom- if, in fact, they belog here at all (as a disambig)- they definately do not come before the common uses!

Putz

What's the difference between "Schmuck" and "Putz" ?

"Putz" is also a verb.--Joel 10:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's a good discussion on the differences:

"A more common Yiddishism for the same concepts is schmuck. There is some disagreement over the relative offensiveness of these terms. In The Joy of Yiddish, Leo Rosten claims that putz is the more offensive word, but I believe most people today would think the opposite: putz has more of a connotation of bumbling foolishness, while schmuck is a stronger insult."

I personally believe a putz is someone who accidentally does something dumb. A schmuck has more intent in their actions. —SpyMagician 14:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Nominate for Deletion

I think maybe this article should be put up for deletion - none of the content seems to meet wikipedia guidelines.

Vernacular Usage - goes against Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary

Use in popular culture - Not references, not very notable - not encyclopaedic in the way it is written

Surname - Of the four people mention one doesn't have an article, two have stubs and one has an article that has been nominated for deleted on notability grounds with a result of no consensus.

Taking all of this into account I'm not really sure if this page it at all neccessary - if you want to find the definition of the word there are many internet dictionaries that can be used. At the most this should be disambigous page for people who's name is Schmuck (as suggested previously) with maybe a link to the List of English words of Yiddish origin article for information on the word. Any thoughts? [[Guest9999 16:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)]]

No objections - I'm going to put it up for deletion. [[Guest9999 17:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)]]

Uh, "Schmoo" ?

The word "shmoo" has never been spelled that way, by Capp or anyone else. There is also no indication that the totally made-up term derives from Yiddish in any way. This is not only factually and orthographically incorrect, it is drawing a baseless parallel. Remove it. --76.224.90.253 15:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Schmoo

I removed the Schmoo section, as the Schmoo page itself says that it does not come from schmuck. We can't have one page saying it is, and the other saying it isn't. I'm going to delete that section again. Vdrj2 21:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)