Talk:School district drug policies

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Copyvio?

Latest comment: 18 years ago5 comments4 people in discussion

This smells like a copyvio but I can't find a reference. Can someone prove it? Where did this come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave6 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 20 December 2004 (UTC)Reply

No, there is no copyright infringement here. This incident did happen (check Archives on mailtribune.com), and the basic information regarding school district Drug Policies is accurate. Why do you think it is a copyright violation? Just because it is written better than most articles on wikipedia does not mean that it should be ostracized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.194.31.18 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 20 April 2005 (UTC)Reply

It's actually considerably worse-written than the good articles here. For example, there is no indication of geographic location. The beginning of the article seems to promise a general coverage of the topic, not even indicating a restriction to the US, but by the end of the article it seems to be covering the petty grievance of a handful of students on the forensics team of a single Oregon school who got in trouble on a poorly supervised meet. Second, the reader unfamiliar with the issue has no idea what the other side of the controversy is-- why would a school have a drug and alcohol policy? How have they changed over the last century? Do they accomplish their goals? What have been the results of court challenges? The final dropped ball in the article is the lack of conclusion: the committee met for five months, and then...? This is a half-assed, self-absorbed rant that would have been rejected by most high school newspapers. Should we delete it? Dalembert 02:15, 10 January 2006 (UTC) PS: look up "ostracized" and refrain from big words in public until you know what they mean.Reply

Sometimes, people can be so mean! Here is the definition of "Ostracized": excluded from a group. I am pretty sure that whomever wrote the statement above was using this relatively small word correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradybd (talk • contribs) 23:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Mean, but correct. You may be "pretty sure" ostracized was used correctly in the above paragraph, but you are wrong. The expression of suspicion of a copyright infringement does not suggest "exclusion from a group." The article is a pathetic adolescent whine, roughly equivalent to: "Teenagers have a consitutional right to use illegal drugs!! So there!!" Dalembert 11:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

NPOV?

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

This seems like the poster child article on how to write something with a POV. It seems to be written from the POV of someone who wants to be free of searches, and doesn't even touch on the issues in support of the testing policy. Teekno 20:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

When I began looking at this article (Dec. 2007) there was material that addressed your concern. I worked on the balance generally. --Lquilter (talk) 01:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

re:high school newspaper

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

My high school newspaper Hawkeye would not even publish an article on the flu epidemic in our school that forced it to close because it was "controversial" of course this article would not be put in a school newspaper! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.39.63 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

cleanup; deletion; merge

Latest comment: 16 years ago3 comments1 person in discussion

Merger proposal on the front suggests merging to a particular school. While content specific to that school should be (and already has been) moved to that article, school district drug policies is a completely valid article, subject of a number of legal cases in the US, at least. The article does need significant clean up work as the tags indicate but the topic is notable and valid. --Lquilter (talk) 01:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

I did a fair amount of cleaning up of the majority of the article. I moved the problem tags (NPOV & mergeto) to the Ashland section which is now the main problem in those sections. References should still be added throughout the article, and I tagged a couple of places, as well as adding in a couple of starter refs. I'll look in on the page and work on it as I can but I believe it's now in a better place. --Lquilter (talk) 01:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
I also cleaned up the Ashland section but did not remove it entirely. I'd like to see people discuss on this page the merits of a "case study", how such material might benefit the article, how it fits (or could be made to fit) with Wikipedia:Manual of Style, and so on. Moreover, if there is any justification to maintaining a section highlighting this particular school alone, then I believe it would need to be supported by references beyond the local, i.e., references other than just those in the Daily Tidings and the Mail Tribune. --Lquilter (talk) 02:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

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