Talk:Schwarzlose machine gun

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 86.17.120.120 in topic "Medium" machine gun

MG M.07 Delayed Blowback Operation

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Does anyone know about this weapons blowback operation?.

User:Jetwave Dave 01:44AM 24/06/07


Balkan Wars of the 1990s

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This MG also saw service in the 1990s. --89.49.185.211 (talk) 18:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Copyedit

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I changed 'drum-magazine' to 'box'. I did this because the term could be could be confusing as regards weapons like the Lewis. The normal term for a piece of equipment like this is 'belt-box'. RASAM (talk) 18:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Kynoch machine gun

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I propose we don't really need a separate article for the Kynoch machine gun. As the article creator says, it's "basically a copy". Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 01:35, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

  Got it: merged and redirected to the "Production" section here. Look good, User:Funnyfarmofdoom? (If you even remember you ever saw that article...) Ansh666 00:45, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

a notice

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there was also a Schwarzlose M1905 machinen gewehr — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.75.85.74 (talk) 11:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Origin

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While it was assembled in Austria-Hungary it was designed by a German firearms designer, so I wonder if stating that Austria-Hungary is the county of origin in the infobox is correct. What are your thoughts and what are the wikipedia rules in these cases? M11rtinb (talk) 17:53, 14 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Name

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Gbook hits:

  • "Schwarzlose 07/12" (13)
  • "Schwarzlose M07/12" (13)
  • "Schwarzlose M 07/12" (8)
  • "Schwarzlose Model 07/12" (4)
  • "Schwarzlose Modell 07/12" (2)
  • "MG 07/12" (2)
  • "Schwarzlose 1907/12" (2)
  • "Schwarzlose MG M.07/12" (1)
  • "Schwarzlose MG M07/12" (1)
  • "Maschinengewehr 07/12" (1)

--Zoupan 10:00, 18 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Gbook hits:

  • "Schwarzlose MG"/"Schwarzlose M.G." (40)
  • "Schwarzlose machine gun" (40)
  • "Schwarzlose Maschinengewehr" (31)

--Zoupan 22:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 26 May 2015

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to Schwarzlose machine gun. Number 57 18:58, 15 June 2015 (UTC)Reply


Schwarzlose M07/12Schwarzlose M.7 – The official Austro-Hungarian Army designation of the first (M.1907) model was Maschinengewehr Schwarzlose M.7 (Source - army manual). Shouldn't this article be named Schwarzlose M.7 and not by one of its variations, the M.7/12? I understand that more M.7/12s were made because of WWI, but anyway. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 19:05, 3 June 2015 (UTC) M11rtinb (talk) 22:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)Reply


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Years of production

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In the infobox, under Produced it's written that this MG was produced ever after WWI (presumably in Czechoslovakia) until 1939. My understanding is that these were conversions from the 8x50mmR Mannlicher to 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge and not new products. These post WWI modifications shouldn't be considered as production years, should they? M11rtinb (talk) 20:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

I guess everyone agrees, changing years of production to 1908-1918. M11rtinb (talk) 19:59, 3 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

"Medium" machine gun

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While in modern parlance, a medium machine gun typically fires a "rifle" cartridge of 6-8mm calibre, as does the M1907/12 here, I feel this is not a fitting term at all for the weapon. This weapon should sit firmly within the category of "heavy machine gun", a term widely used at the time for this class of extremely heavy, rifle-calibre static weapon. While the general characteristics of a modern heavy machine gun are radically different from those in WWI, their employment and role are largely unchanged - a heavy static weapon used for extended firing at range, and not mobile.

I suspect it may have once been refered to in the article as 'heavy' machine gun, but a well-meaning editor may have tried to cross-reference those articles, seen the general descriptors of a modern heavy machine gun (extremely large 12mm cartridge), and decided to use a reference they deemed more fitting. Both articles, medium and heavy machine gun, in fact specifically reference heavy WWI-era guns as not being medium machine guns at all. 86.17.120.120 (talk) 14:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Reply