Talk:Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated/Archive 1

Archive 1

Canada Template??

Umm, y is there a Provinces and Territories for Canada template in 'Country of Origin'? Can't some1 write Canada? Hi, I'm a Scooby-pedian! (talk)

Removed.--ETLamborghini (talk) 02:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for also taking away 'Yaaa' from the Producer(s) section! --68.98.129.158 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC).

Seasons and episodes

The day is April 5. The day came. Can you remove the to be announced thing from the numbers of seasons and episodes will it have? thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.119.71 (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

No one knows how many seasons it'll have. You'll have to wait and see how popular it is. The series likely would never be cancelled entirely, just retitled and reformatted, but the producers don't set out with a certain number of seasons in mind. -- Zanimum (talk) 21:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Casey Kasem

earlier it said Kasem recorded dialogue for season 1 and that Matthew lilard would take over for season 2, but now it just lists Lilard. hope they didn't have Lilard record over Kasems dialogue! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marvelfan28 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I'm amazed they'd go with Lillard, Kasem would seem more economical. -- Zanimum (talk) 21:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I didn't recognize who was doing the voice of Shaggy in the episode that aired, it may have been Lillard. Shaggy's FATHER was the voice of Kasem though, and the format looked like we'll be seeing the parents as recurring minor characters. 66.53.101.127 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:28, 14 April 2010 (UTC).

Kasem retired, that's why Lillard took over the voice of Shaggy. Kasem does make a guest appearance voicing Mr. Rogers though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.102.50 (talk) 10:18, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

More info

Hey, I jsut saw the sneak peek of the show, and I have some more info on the plot76.255.214.133 (talk) 02:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Knows something you don't.

Professor Emmanuel Raffalo/Mr. Lobo connection?

Has there anything been said about the uncanny resemblance between Professor Emmanuel Raffalo and the horror host Mr. Lobo?--DrWho42 (talk) 01:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I've reincluded the image removed by 99.68.12.135 between Revision as of 03:54, 23 July 2010/Revision as of 03:56, 23 July 2010.--DrWho42 (talk) 08:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

No, there hasn't been any such talk. I think the image should be removed since it is just speculation and not a quoted fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.157.243 (talk) 04:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the text relating Professor Emmanuel Raffalo to Mr. Lobo.--DrWho42 (talk) 02:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I've re-included the image since it's just the image as opposed to the image and the claim that he was inspired by Mr. Lobo.--DrWho42 (talk) 17:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't see the need for it anymore. It is now just an unnecessary image of a minor character that only appears in one episode. LordoftheDew (talk) 02:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

No more Professor Raffalo image. No more Lobo. Enough is enough. People, please stop adding that. There is no truth to it what-so-ever.LordoftheDew (talk) 05:32, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

How do you know that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.232.1.251 (talk) 02:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

It has never been said. So then, why do people keep adding it as fact? It is just speculation, and personally, I don't think there is any truth to it. Secondly, do not re-add the image. There is no need for an image of a minor character. Please stop, I'm sick of removing it.LordoftheDew (talk) 10:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

It's not speculation, in fact I personally know someone who storyboards in the same building and knows the character designers who worked on that episode. You not believing that there is any truth to it is your opinion and shouldn't cloud your judgment. The fact that it isn't yet in writing doesn't stand as sufficient evidence that it it's false. Nevertheless, it's a minor detail which I don't believe is worth getting so uptight about, however, I don't see how it hurts the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.234.23.120 (talk) 10:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Unless you can provide any proof, I don't want it. If it is true then that is just peaches, but I do indeed need it in writing. No proof, no pudding.LordoftheDew (talk) 17:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Proof was found at Monster Island News.--DrWho42 (talk) 03:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

additional Proof was found at [1]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.234.23.120 (talk) 19:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. As long as there is citations, it's acceptable.LordoftheDew (talk) 00:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

What's with the major spoilers in the episode summary?

Seriously, some spoilers are to be expected, but that's a scene by scene retelling. No other shows have this format. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.239.205 (talk) 04:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Some, I have seen, do have that format. There not ridiculously long, so I'd say leave them the way they are. Unless they get out of hand with needless details, there fine. However, I think the synopsis for the 2nd episode should be rewritten. I might just do that myself. As far as spoilers go, common sense would tell you not to read these before you watch the episodes on T.V.. LordoftheDew (talk) 02:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I've already elaborated upon the synopsis for the first episode, making it more descriptive. Next I will shorten the synopsis for the other two episodes, making them less descriptive. That way, there will be a nice balance between being too descriptive and not being descriptive enough. Since this is a show that has plot and character progression that carry on from episode to episode, I say this is the format we use. Don't go over every little detail, yet describe the episode from start to finish, focusing on the main points in the story and things that are likely to become more important in later episodes.LordoftheDew (talk) 05:17, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I see there has be some additions to the episode descriptions. They're slightly improved from what I had written so they are fine with me. However, leave the first three alone now. Remember, we do not want to go overboard with needless details.LordoftheDew (talk) 10:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Can we at least get a spoiler warning, then? Because if someone were to come to this page when trying to decide whether or not to watch the show, they'll like choose not to having had the entire plot spoiled on a scene by scene basis. 69.232.239.205 (talk) 06:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

We don't cater to people like that. This an information site, not a forum.LordoftheDew (talk) 17:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

"We don't cater to people like that"? Throughout this page you seem to speak as if you had some final authority. It's off-putting. Wikipedia's guidelines don't forbid spoilers, but they do discourage lengthy plot descriptions. What was posted under the "Short Summary" could hardly be called such, as they were largely scene-by-scene descriptions. If there's going to be major plot exposition, then it seems the thing to do is follow the format of other show's wikis and create individual pages for the episodes.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.86.28 (talk) 03:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

In Fear of the Phantom

I did a little snooping and I was able to semi-confirm the existence of this episode. It is either the 6th or the 7th episode. Like I said though, it is only semi-confirmed. Nobody re-add this to the article until Cartoon Network confirms it for sure. LordoftheDew (talk) 06:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC) Okay, I did some more searching, and Toonzone confirmed it. A few other sites I went to are saying exactly the same thing. I'll put all the episodes back. No harm done. LordoftheDew (talk) 07:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Being as the episode JUST aired, this should probably be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.12.71 (talk) 23:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Writers

Is there any information on who writes the episodes? Internet Movie Database turns up nothing. I think it would be important to include so that it could be like other "list of episode" articles as List of The Real Ghostbusters episodes, etc.--DrWho42 (talk) 00:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

For some odd reason there is almost no information to be found about this show. I know that the animation director is named Dan Krall and all the episodes so far have be directed by Curt Geda. A bunch of people write each episode. As soon as I have the ability to watch all them again, I get back to you on that.LordoftheDew (talk) 19:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

This is what I have so far:

#	Episode	Writer	Director
1	"Beware The Beast from Below"	Mitch Watson	Curt Geda
2	"The Creeping Creatures"	Jed Elinoff Scott Thomas	Curt Geda

--DrWho42 (talk) 19:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

The writers for the third episode are Robert Lamoreaux, Michelle Lamoreaux, and Mitch Watson.LordoftheDew (talk) 19:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

The writer for the forth is Adam Beechen.LordoftheDew (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

The director for the third episode was Victor Cook. Same for the forth.LordoftheDew (talk) 19:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Alice May/Gwen Stacy

In the recent episode "The Legend of Alice May", the titular character of that episode is perhaps based off of Gwen Stacy. She is very simular to her in appearance and wears the exact same clothing that Gwen Stacy most often wears. Someone help me find proof or a justifiable reason for adding that to the article.LordoftheDew (talk) 00:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

What's your basis for this theory? That the characters are both blonde and wear hairbands? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.86.28 (talk) 22:35, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

IMDB sites Catherine Tabor as the voice and you guys cite Hynden Walch as the voice. Is there any proof that you guys can cite so that I know for sure it was Walch?? Does her name appear in the end credits for example?

98.213.117.72 (talk) 05:09, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes it does. Hynden Walch is the voice of Alice May. Don't believe everything on IMDB.LordoftheDew (talk) 05:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Remove Spoilers

Someone please rewrite the episode descriptions to remove all spoilers. It's very inconvenient for everything to be spoiled. There isn't even a spoiler warning, which itself wouldn't be good enough. Wikifixer (talk) 11:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

While I understand your concern, Spoilers are no different from any other content and should not be deleted solely because they are spoilers.  Chickenmonkey  17:52, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

This has already been brought up. No spoiler warnings. This isn't a forum.LordoftheDew (talk) 06:04, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

References to Popular Culture

There are a few others that I know. There is a man that appears in a few episodes that resembles Don Knotts. In "The Revenge of the Man-Crab", two background characters resemble grown-up Pebbles and Bam-Bam.LordoftheDew (talk) 20:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC) Just noticed a Don Knotts-type character in the pre-credits of tonight's "Humungonauts: Episode as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.79.96.254 (talk) 02:10, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Discussion from August-September 2009

This section was moved to this location by  Chickenmonkey  22:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Just created character and cast links, I'll continue to work on the article some more, may have to wait for the show to air however before new information can be added. LordNatonstan (talk) 23:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

is there any new information on this? i haven't seen anything on TV or the internet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.77.2 (talk) 22:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

The Game

Do you think we should mention the Online games references to the What's New, Scooby-Doo?/A Pup Named Scooby-Doo such as a play set in Coolsville and with Red Herring as the main Suspect? Ztyran (talk) 23:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Major Edits

i will be doing major edits, the voice cast is unnecessary, we need a list of characters and explain the differences in this incarnation then the original. also pop culture references is original research and in no way help the article. so i will be removing original research first.Bread Ninja (talk) 10:49, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

How do you figure that the voice cast is unnecessary? I found it very useful and without the voice actors there is no show! 98.213.117.127 (talk) 16:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. After all if there is no cast, it would be a silent cartoon, which is SO 90 years ago. Isabella and Lego Liker _{Whatcha doin'?} 17:13, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

The main cast is still there; I think Bread Ninja was referring to the "additional cast" list that was continually growing and not sourced at all. The idea to discuss the characters, in relation to previous incarnations, is a good one; make sure it is sourced from reliable sources, however.  Chickenmonkey  19:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I removed the additional voice cast to make room to change the voic cast section in to a "characters" section. a section that gives a brief description of the characters (which in this case would mention alot of differences, such as fred obsessed with traps, velma dating shaggy etc.)Bread Ninja (talk) 20:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Number of episodes / seasons and more

Hey, I'm just an ocasional editor on the english Wikipedia, but as I've built the spanish version of the article, I've had to read, check and examine all english pages related to the most recent incarnation of the Scooby franchise. So here's what I gotta say and contribute with:

• This series will have (as of August 27, 2010) 1 season, with a total of 26 episodes. That was confirmed in the above mentioned date by producer/writer Mich Watson in this interview
• In said interview, he also talks about the little changes in the gang's personalities and relationships, as well as giving inside information about the references and a lot of back story about the series's development. You can use the interview when making the character descriptions (I did it in the spanish version). If the above link doesn't work for any reason, there's a coppy of the interview posted here.
• I think the section "References to popular culture" should be readded. It gives a lot of interesting information. Don't forget the references to Lovecraft, Terminator and such.
• As a fan of the classic Scooby, I think that we don't have to forget the fact that in many incarnations of the series (specially in the original "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!", "The New Scooby-Doo movies" and "The Scooby-Doo show", the relationship (and / or romantic love interest) between Shaggy and Velma was hinted in a lot of ocasions and episodes, as well as Fred and Daphne's. However the closeness the two shared with each other was apparently dropped when Warner Bros. began to release the direct-to-video movies (but then recovered in some of them). This came to a point in the series "What's New, Scooby-Doo?", in which they weren't close at all. In fact, often, for example, Velma went with Fred and Daphne, leaving Shag and Scoob on their own. The point is to remember that this relationship did not come out of nowhere, but there were given many signs of it in the original series and the shows that followed (I can name a few if you want me to). Ironicly, Watson said they didn't include this in the new series for that reason, he said they did it only to please the Scooby fandom witch I think it's awesome (producers/writers hearing what people wants, not all shows out there do that anymore). Hopefully this will be taken into account when making the character descriptions.
• If you're still wondering about the changes on Velma's personality, Watson explains it all in the interview. The more you read, the more you understand.

The series premieres this sunday, march 6, 2011 on Cartoon Network Latin America. I haven't seen the slightest part of an episode and haven't read the episode descriptions but I already know what happens in episode 10 (and I'm totally dissapointed, why they did that?) but there are 12 more episodes and a spectacular season finale (acording to Watson) so let's hope they get back together. As a fan of the original Scooby, I'm very happy with this new installment, and I don't wanna see my favorite pairing of all-time not ending with each other. So... my best wishes for this new series. I think you should be wondering "Why don't you add the references / links yourself?". Well, I'd do it, but I don't even have enough time to be active in the spanish Wikipedia anymore...

P.S: Here are some other links that could serve as external links, as well as references for plot, characters, raitings, awards, etc. Hope they help you:

• I think this is already added in the article, it's a complete annalysis and describes the lessons to learn on the show etc.
• Mystery Incorporated at Common Sense Media
• See this for data on the debut and ratings I didn't know Mystery Incorporated was available in 166 countries and such... and a foreign news portal is saying it
• Another review of the series that, in my opinion, is very useful and covers allmost all of it's aspects.
• A review about the first DVD... very informative if you ask me
• A complete an intelligent review, with animation process details, character descriptions, etc. Even if it's from a blog, it's better than much of the reviews you'll find in the web, trust me.

If you wanna see the latin american promo for Mystery Incorporated, just Click here and answer me, our promo is different than the one on CN USA? Here we're still on the "toonix era" though for this comercial it looks like we'll be using the "Check it" era very soon. Zoinks!

Cheers, from Space Ghost, or as known in spanish language:

Fantasma del Espacio (talk) 06:15, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

The Hex Girls

I went and added the Hex Girls voice actresses on the cast page since they did make an appearance in episode 7, "In Fear of the Phantom" and I think it they should at least be mentioned in the cast because of their appearance in the show.

Found an unreliable source!

http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/blogs/2010/tv-news/scooby-doo-mystery-incorporated-we-snoop-for-scoop/?cmpid=FCST_tvnews

This link is unreliable I was reading it and found this at the bottom of the page: Regarding Episode 6, “Song Of Mystery”: Is Alice May the youngest villain in Scooby history? Frankly, I felt a bit bad clobbering her with an umbrella in the online game! I mean, my sons did…. I do believe she is the youngest, although the ["spookified"] children who help her in that episode are even younger. That said, don’t put it past us to have a baby villain in the future. Babies are scary!

That is wrong! The "spookified" children do not happen in episode 6 this happens in episode 5 not six. This is unreliable and as such I have removed anything (except the number of episodes) that used this as a reference. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 07:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I have to correct what I said here. Episode 6 is "The Legend of Alice May" not episode "Song of Mystery" that is episode 5 and I doubt Mitch would get that wrong. Also Alice May is not the villian in episode 5 it is Mary-Ann Gleerdon. I do not believe this a reliable reference or source because of this and there is other questions that make me wonder this as: Assisted by my own “Scooby gang” – that is, my twin 7-year-old sons – I asked ‘Scooby’ producer Mitch Watson to share a few clues about why much is new with this ‘Doo’ (which premieres new episodes every Monday at 7/6c) which proves that it is fan made and how and where is the proof on that site that they actually talked to Mitch Watson? Unless it's a magazine, Yahoo or something along that lines I doubt Mitch Watson would take time to answer fan made blogs. Do you know any star, producer, etc. that does? I really do question this source but I do not question that there aren't 26 episodes in the first season just that page is all I am questioning and I think if it is possible can we find a more reliable source such as Yahoo or something along that lines. Thanks! JamesAlan1986 (talk) 02:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm so so so sorry!

I was trying to request a semi-protection on the page cause people keep adding unreliable DVD volumes on the page with no sources and I just wanted it to stop as they have yet to be released and could change before they are actually released. I'm so sorry. I wasn't aware of how to do it but I found it and got it taken care of again I AM SO SORRY! JamesAlan1986 (talk) 10:14, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Did a little change here.

I posted this "The episode first aired on Teletoon on March 19, 2011 and the remaining twelve episodes continued to air until June 11, 2011. Then Cartoon Network begain airing the remaining 13 episodes of the first season on May 3, 2011. It started with "Mystery Solvers Club State Finals" and will continue on with episodes until July 26, 2011." instead of what was previously posted as it was very confusing and made little sense this makes a lot more sense and doesn't confuse people cause it was making like Teletoon's had started airing the remaining 13 episodes on May 3, 2011 instead of Cartoon Network. I hope this is okay JamesAlan1986 (talk) 03:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

To the IP Users

Please do not remove the reference section on here. It is suppose to be on there and removing it is vandalisim. I was able to fix it and get it back the way it previously was please do not removed this again. Thank you. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 20:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Different References

I went and changed the references for the Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated season volumes and posted a more reliable source which would be Amazon.com. I have found that Imbd is unreliable because it was used to try and post episodes 25 & 26 of SDMI (Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated) and both titles were wrong. Scoobyfan.net is exactly what it says it is a fan site and as such fan sites are not a reliable source on Wikipedia. So I changed them all to a more reliable site and all the volumes are referenced by Amazon.com not the previous references. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 11:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

I also went ahead and removed the reference I posted of Frank Welker as the Manticore as it was unnecessary, seeing as many of the characters he voiced are unreferenced. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 11:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

The Vandilism

Okay. Whoever is changing the status from Airing to returning series needs to stop this is vandalisim. We go by how it is airing in the United States ONLY not by any outside TV station please do no change this again. Plus there is no reference that it is a returning series at all just a fan speculation. Please do not change this again.

Here is reference to what I am talking about it is on my talk page. EDIT: This was moved from my talk page to my archive page. you can still get to it just have to click where it says Index on the Archive box.

Ohh...my mistake, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated is not protected, to request it be, post a request at WP:RPP, and an admin will review and make a decision. List of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated episodes, however, is semi-protected, so new users aren't able to edit that page, until August 3, 2011. You can definitely use this for an airdate source, and there will be no problems. If you want to source it properly (rather than just the link) copy and paste the following only for the first airdate:

<ref name=Airdate>{{cite web|url=http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/scooby-doo-mystery-incorporated/episodes-season-1/305448|title=Scooby-Doo: Mystery... Episodes |publisher=TV Guide|accessdate=2011-06-11}}</ref>

On every subsequent airdate copy and paste just

<ref name=Airdate/>

and you'll be set! Why would you want Canadian airdates for an American show? It should only have the American airdates. The 2nd page contains the other episodes. But hey, I'm headed to bed now, so if you have any more questions, I'll get to them when I wake up. CTJF83 09:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Teletoon's is a Canadian channel and they are posted on the page but no references are posted to show how and when they aired as proof, you know? JamesAlan1986 (talk) 09:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

You caught me before I left....There should only be American airdates, since it is an American show, correct? See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/How_to_write_an_episode_article#Broadcast for part of an explanation. CTJF83 09:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 05:09, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Before an edit war breaks out

This is an encyclopedia not a fan site. Fan speculations about the show being canceled, returning, etc. is a violation of Wikipedia:NOT. The show has currently ended and until such time it is revealed by Cartoon Network to say otherwise is again a violation of Wikipedia:NOT. This is a US show and we follow it as such. Please do not change anything that is posted on here. If you read the above information. You realize that any other added information is incorrect. Again this is an encyclopedia NOT a fan site and as such fan speculation needs to be kept to yourself. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 01:54, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how such an edit could make this a "fan site" anyways. "Ended" implies that the show is outright canned and will not be returning for a second season. To say "Hiatus" or "TBA" would be better, since it means that the option is open. The page should only say "ended" if we have actual confirmation of such. ThePunkyFantom (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much to say it is cancelled or returning is a fan speculation is to be posted on a fan site not an encyclopedia. That's what that means. Also hiatus means break which can also mean that it is returning though whether this is true or not is unknown so to put it as TBA is more appropriate. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 03:37, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Vol. 1 ukrainian premiere

Vol. 1 (episodes 1-4) has been released October 10, 2011 in Ukraine. Please add this to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.113.94.6 (talk) 18:28, 25 November 2011 (UTC) [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.113.94.6 (talk) 18:30, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done User talk:RickyBryant45324 16:43, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

reboot?

How is this a reboot, it's obviously set after Scooby doo where are you, at least, becuase of the monsters from that show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.0.47 (talk) 20:07, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Not really a reboot, more of a retcon in my opinion. This show works under the framework that the Scooby Doo movies and What's New Scooby Doo never happened, since the the gang are high school students. Zombie Island pretty much showed they were in their mid to late 20s and What's New Scooby Doo never did retcon that away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.202.120 (talk) 15:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)