Talk:Scooch

Starting number

fun that they will be singing in making your mind up! do anyone know which starting number the song will have?--Matrix17 08:45, 2 March 2007 14 March 2007 (UTC)

It took 25 seconds to find out on bbc.co.uk. [1] --Strangnet 13:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Cyndi Celebrating

Watching the recording (yup, I'm that sad), there's no visible evidence that Cyndi celebrated in Making your mind up. She was next to Ferne Cotton and would have heard both names at a similar volume. Scooch were next to Wogan and accepted defeat. 82.69.90.226 17:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Was rather amusing watching the confusion unfold, I only heard Terry Wogan announce Cyndi as the winner, but she didn't celebrate at all so must have heard Fearn Cotton. Scooch did appear gracious none the less applauding her and look shocked when the actual result was given for real.

Fansite/Official site

This entry reads like a biog off the official site. I've no doubt it's been written by people very sympathetic to Scooch's very patchy career. The hyperbole and positive spin on everything does not match the standards of objectivity I would expect. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.144.60.227 (talk • contribs)

In what way exactly? You're free to add/rephrase things you find lacking. All I find is a recap of a band's career and music. I'm as unbiased as one can get - haven't ever heard them perform in any way, shape or form. --Strangnet 00:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Charlotte church comments

If their is anyone who knows mutch more then i have already written about the charlotte church comment and scooch respond please insert it in the article. Their has been quite many articles about it.--Matrix17 14:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem is if there's too much focus on these minor comments/outbursts, that the media loves to exaggerate (are there actually any non-sensationalist media outlets reporting it?), the article will begin to look like a gossip column. Scooch is after all a music group and that's probably what the article should reflect. --Strangnet 14:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Mm you are probably right--Matrix17 15:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Prediction

The article stated that the band's album "Four Sure" will re-enter the albums chart in April. This is clearly a prediction. I presume what it intended to say is "will be re-released" or some such like so I have changed it to that effect. If that is not what it meant then please could someone re-write it. ^Tom_Phil 23:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Track listings

The single pages should really be created seeing as the band now has enough credible status. Also, the track listings need to be removed from the main article, because they aren't necessary unless they're on a page on their own. I might do it when I get time later on, but anybody's welcome to! - ǀ Mikay ǀ 09:26, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Final Position In Eurovision 2007

I made an amendment on 2-nov-2007, stating that Scooch's final position in the Eurovision final was 23rd out of 24 entries, (a fact confirmed on the finishing table of every eurovision website including Wikipedia's article on the competition), this has been reverted to a position of 22 out of 42 entries which is incorrect, as it implies: a) that there were 42 entries in the 2007 Eurovision final which is not so. and b) they finished one place higher than they actually did, as in the event of a points tie when a winner isn't to be decided, as in this case between France & The United Kingdom, the placing order is then decided alphabetically which put France's entry in the much coveted 22nd position. I have re-added my amendment and added this explanation to justify them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.1.240.149 (talk) 11:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The result 23 out of 24 entrys are form the final overall they came around 30th place or something.. so that statement form the early days of the article is not true.--Zingostar 21:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

As the final only contained 24 nations, (comprised of: the 'Big Four', the other pre-qualified nations and the succesfull Semi-finalists), it was impossible for Scooch to come any lower than 24th place, so Zingostar is also incorrect. Sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.120.185 (talk) 17:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

As the contest had 42 entrys and a overall position is the issue 19 points hardly puts them at place 23 overall. so YOu are incorrect.--Zingostar 19:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

They were 23rd, because it was the final. The 25th placed country overall is the 11th placed semi-final country. You can't mix a semi-final with a final to create an overall table. Will ^(talk) 19:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Not if counting points of all the 42 entrys.--Zingostar 19:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

You can make a really complicated system with weights, pulleys, and division by zero, but officially, they are 23rd out of 24. That is all that matters to Wikipedia. Will ^(talk) 20:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

But a true fact is that scooch came in 31th place of all the 42 song if all scores after the final was counted.BUT in the final they where in 23th place thats true. BUT they where not 23 of all 42 songs when counting scores,thats my point,--Zingostar 12:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

They were 23rd. 42 participated in the contest. Will ^(talk) 12:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Zingostar, If we use your reasoning about the points accumilated by nations over the semi-final & The final. The point that Will and myself are making is that if a nation is knocked out of the Football World Cup in the second round but scored more goals in the entire tournament than the eventual winners, that doesn't make them winners of the world cup. The Eurovision semi-final is held to determine which nations will go through to the all important final. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.120.185 (talk) 16:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes maybe so BUT even in the world cup all the countries are always put in a overall points list. in the end. BUT its no point in discussing this any further.--Zingostar 21:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

We can sum it up with that scooch landed at place 23 in the final and in place 31 overall.--Zingostar 21:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Zingostar, No we can't sum it up as such because it is INCORRECT. as SCOOCH were in the final and there was only 24 entry's in the final, they could not come any lower than 24th as the votes and positioning from the semi-final is not and has never been carried over in the final, because if use your reasoning, the countries that take part in both the final & the semi final can claim to have finished 1st as they have a higher points score than the winner if you combine both scores they received. I suggest you visit the numerous eurovision websites that are available and confirm this for yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.240.152 (talk) 19:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Change Of Official Website

This entry originally stated that www.scoochworld.com was their official website.

When i looked this was not the case and instead was a placeholder which instead advertised a hosting company.

I have changed this to their official website at www.scooch.co.uk

On this BBC news story the bbc link for the official scooch site goes to www.scooch.co.uk

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6651515.stm

Chulcoop (talk) 20:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

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