Talk:Scopus stone vessels cave

Piracy book wrongly cited?

"Judean Piracy, Judea and Parthia, and the Roman Annexation of Judea: The Evidence of Pompeius Trogus"

Out of the 13 footnotes in the article 11 are to a 2022 paper by Kenneth Atkinson on piracy. Though it is used extensively, it does not appear to mention caves and I am uncertain it is being used appropriately here.

For example the following sentence is ostensibly referenced to Atkinson 2022:

On one of the pillars the Greek letters 'ON', 'IN' were written in charcoal and between them a delicate drawing of a flower, similar to those found on ossuaries and tombs of that period.

For some reason, no page specific page number has been given. Owenglyndur, I strongly suggest that you add specific page number for where you find information to improve verifiability.

In any case, the source does not mention:

1. Greek letters
2. Charcoal
3. Tombs - or burials or cemeteries
4. Ossuaries

Owenglyndur, are you certain you have used the correct source here? Richard Nevell (talk) 22:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your remark, i reviewed the article and saw someone removed the main source i used for this article , then used the source you pointed out. I relinked the source is originally used. I hope now you'll find everything in place. Owenglyndur (talk) 08:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Owenglyndur. I did some copy-editing w/o checking who posted the article. Was it you? Thank you for making this site known to English Wiki users!

Re. the pirates book: it's still referrenced 5 (five) times in the article. I guess they should al be replaced with the correct source?

There are several other issues I have marked with "dubious" tags. Would you mind looking through them? Thanks!

Maybe the Hebrew art. contains more mistakes than those I managed to easily find & correct. Translating 1-to-1 is never a good option, but I fully understand that we all have limited time and patience. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 15:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Move (name change)

The complex has no proper name, the excavators never used one, nor did one become common since they published the dig. Hebrew Wiki chose a name, but we are in no way obliged to follow. I added "Scopus" since it offers the location; the rest in lower-case, since this is a description, not, as mentioned, a proper name. The paper by Amit, Zeligman and Zilberbod is titled "Scopus Stone Vessel Production Caves on the Eastern Slope of Mount Scopus, Jerusalem" and the publisher imprinted at the head of every other page the title less ", Jerusalem"; the authors themselves once use as a heading "Scopus Stone Vessel Factory Product List--The Typology" (p. 331, bolding is mine). The latter heading inspired me to rename the article the way I did. Arminden (talk) 15:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Categories: West Bank is not Israel

.. Arminden (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Y. Adler source

The editor who wrote the article, Owenglyndur, couldn't provide a clear answer yet re. which paper written by Yonatan Adler he used as a source, offering 3 different titles or URLs corresponding to them, here and in our discussion on his talk-page. This must be clarified. Here are the 3:

1. Yonatan Adler, Jewish Purity Practices in Roman Judea: The Evidence of Archaeology, www.academia.edu/33380097

2. Yonatan Adler, "The Decline of Jewish Ritual Purity Observance in Roman Palaestina: An Archaeological Perspective on Chronology and Historical Context", in: Expressions of Cult in the Southern Levant in the Greco-Roman Period. Manifestations in Text and Material Culture (eds. Oren Tal and Zeev Weiss; Contextualizing the Sacred Series, 6; Turnhout: Brepols), 269–284. (URL leads to the 1st page only.)

3. Yonatan Adler: חידושים במחקר כלי אבן־הקִרטון היהודיים בתקופה הרומית - New Insights in the Study of Roman Period Jewish Chalk Vessels (in Hebrew), in Qadmoniot Vol. 52, No. 157 (2019), pp. 2-17, URL: https://www.jstor.org/stable/26749426 Arminden (talk) 06:01, 27 July 2024 (UTC)