Talk:Scott Adams

Adams's middle name

Adams's middle name "Raymond" was added in this edit. I can't find a better source for this and wonder if it's worth keeping. 70.163.208.142 (talk) 03:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

I see now it was added much earlier, here. Still no good source for it though, nor his birthdate, unless you count WP:BRITANNICA.[1] 70.163.208.142 (talk) 23:28, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

"until it was dropped"

I undid this edit, but it's been reverted. I have a few problems with this statement. It repeats what the third lead paragraph says and focuses on Dilbert over Adams. It implies that the comic stopped being a "cultural touchstone" after cancellation, which isn't for us to say; sources in the article simply report the drop from syndication and why. I considered removing "until" and starting a new sentence to just read "It was dropped from syndication and now runs as a webcomic", but that's even more repetitive and disjointed. Maybe we should drop "and becoming a cultural touchstone" altogether. 70.163.208.142 (talk) 20:45, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

You make a good point. Roger (talk) 02:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Cartoon seems to have peaked and ebbed long before. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that is another reason to remove the edit. Roger (talk) 19:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm looking at the ledes for other bios and have cooled a little about redundancy. For example, the lede for James O'Keefe mentions his firing in the first and last paragraphs, granted it's a longer lede. Still have a problem with the conjunction "until", it's drawing conclusions. 70.163.208.142 (talk) 20:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Probably both of them have enemies who take great pleasure in repeatedly saying Adams and O'Keefe were fired. Roger (talk) 23:35, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Low probability speculation. 2600:8802:571B:E00:28EC:43A5:5FF9:B17D (talk) 04:08, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Self-identifying category removed

I removed Category:American people who self-identify as being of Native American descent because the article says that Adams said he had a small amount of Native American heritage, but later found out through a DNA test that he had none. So, he may have previously said he had a small amount, but says none now.–CaroleHenson (talk) 06:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Trimming "Views" and primary sources

@Hyperbolick, my edit helps resolve the section tag and "primary sources" tag up top. It might look like a hatchet job but there is reasoning behind the start and end points of the cut, e.g. after the cut the last sentence of the paragraph (...stated that writing positively about Trump and supporting him ended his public speaking career...) nicely supports what immediately comes before. Adams has a daily podcast and active X feed, his comments about the 2016 DNC and Hillary Clinton are downright quaint compared to the stuff he posts every day. His political registration is effectively meaningless, a "persuasion technique". It's best to just try to keep what secondary sources mention, like the Politico stuff.

Pinging @FMSky as you placed the tag. 70.163.220.139 (talk) 20:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

May be quaint but he wrote what he wrote. Go point by point. Hyperbolick (talk) 23:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Adams writes what he writes every day, in 2016 it was more his written blog and today it's more livestream and X. Why include his facetious temporary endorsement of Clinton and his takes on the DNC when we could just as well include his more recent opinions about migrants and sperm—which at least was covered by a third party source, although I'm not sure if Uproxx is WP:RS. 70.163.220.139 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Just note that this is a pitifully small article, so don't feel you have to delete stuff for that reason. We document history here, and his historical positions, development, and changing positions are good stuff to have in the article. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

It's an issue of WP:PROPORTION. Is Scott Adams first and foremost a political pundit? Because, based on the size of the Views section, that seems to be the case. My proposed removal doesn't document any changing positions IMO, more like reiterations. 70.163.220.139 (talk) 05:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)