Talk:Scouting in Hawaii

Liliuokalani

Shouldn't this be be clarified as "deposed Queen Liliʻuokalani"? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to find an answer over at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles), although the exceptions make this more confusing. These types of problems are supposed to be worked out in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Hawaii/Manual_of_Style. I'll have someone else take a look, but my guess is that we just remove the Queen in the title. —Viriditas | Talk 19:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to make a long dialog on this. It was just knowing that Hawaii was a republic in the 1890s and Scouting started in 1907, the title of queen seemed out of place. "Former" or "deposed" would certainly work here. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 20:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, the question is, does a Polynesian monarch retain their title when their country is annexed? If you take a look at official government documents like Liliuokalani_v._The_United_States, the government refers to her as "former" and "ex-queen", but considering that this is the same government that overthrew her, I'm not sure if she retained her title or not. Like I said, I think it's best to just remove the Queen in the title for now. After all, that's the name we use for the actual article. There is no need to state that she was former or deposed until we find out if Polynesian monarchs retain their titles. I suspect that they don't, but I just don't know. —Viriditas | Talk 05:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The Queen formerly abdicated in 1895. Does she retain her title? I'm going to go with former for now. —Viriditas | Talk 06:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Hawaiiana Award

Would someone who knows what the image is on the medal and badge please fill in the alt field. This is a description of the emblems used for screen readers. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Requirements are in this guide.[1] ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Got an answer from Aloha Council: "It is a poi pounding stone (like a pestle) with a flaming torch in front of it. Thank you for your efforts. Ron F" Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 02:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Copyedits

I have restored my edits:

• I changed the lead from "Scouting in Hawaii has a long history, from the 1900s to the present day, serving thousands of youth in programs that suit the unique environment in which they live." to "Scouting in Hawaii began in the 1900s. It serves thousands of youth in programs that suit the environment in which they live." because there is no need to tell the reader that the period from the 1900s to now is long. That is self-evident. Let's stick to the facts, and leave the interpretation to the reader. See WP:YESPOV: "Prefer nonjudgmental language. A neutral point of view neither sympathizes with nor disparages its subject (or what reliable sources say about the subject), although this must sometimes be balanced against clarity. Present opinions and conflicting findings in a disinterested tone. Do not editorialize."
• "suit the unique environment" - all environments are unique.
• I fixed capitalization of "unit" per WP:CAPITALS.
• I changed the heading "Recent history since statehood (1960-1990)" to "History since statehood" -- 1990 isn't all that recent anymore, and the section has only one tidbit of information in it -something that happened in 1972.
• I removed unnecessary boldfacing per WP:BOLDFACE.
• I fixed the capitalization of headings per WP:HEAD
• I removed "presently", which is a word with disputed usage, or at least is redundant when used with the present tense, which indicates the present condition.

09:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)