Talk:Sea-to-Sky Corridor

Name/move issue

Found this while checking links for {{Historical geographic regions of British Columbia}}; I'd have titled it "Sea to Sky Country", as the usage tends to be lately (thanks to Mountain FM's country-music bent mostly....) and granted, "Corridor" was the original prosaic usage; anyway placed template but thought name issue should be discussed; if other BC project editors see this and have an opinion please suggest here. Or say "Change" or whatever as a vote. An "invented" region, this is getting extended deep into the Lillooet Country lately, having already overtaken the Lower Lillooet; saw D'Arcy included in the usage the other day on The Tyee the other day which surprised me a bit....perturbed actually....anyway otgher regions also overlap here and there, no biggie. This definitely needs an article, it's just a question of which title.Skookum1 (talk) 02:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Corridor/region vs highway

How is the subject of this article different than Sea-to-Sky Highway?--Qyd (talk) 05:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

That one is the physical object of the highway; reference other highway articles. The difference is that Squamish, Whistler, Pemberton et al. marketed/market themselves as the Sea-to-Sky Corridor, and the government is now marketing it as Sea-to-Sky Country, which at least is a little less tacky though entirely invented also; the area is actually the southern half of the Squamish-Lillooet Regional District and Pemberton was the original heart of the Lillooet Country, "the old Lillooet" in fact (ref. about the town's name on Lillooet and Talk:Lil'wat Nation. "The Squamish Country" was all I recall it ever heard to separately; Alta Lake was always in both spheres, and until the highway the least important of the district (2 votes in one of the Murray's elections...neither George nor Myrtle Philip had voted for George). I'm not sure when the wording originated - around the time I got to Whistler in '81 or so, might have been around a year or two already but I don't recall it, and I was an avide reader of the press and so on; Officially, in whatever way it is such, it's meant to be from Lions Bay or Brittania on up, lately extended to include D'arcy, British Columbia, which definitely is in the "Upper Lillooet". Also culturally as well as in terms of newcomer history; Squamish was really isolated before the rail line, and then the highway, and not much of anywhere; Whistler was swamp with good fishing and lots of snow (way more than now). I suppose nearly forty years gives it a history now; I remember when it was concocted; a bit too prosaic for my tastes, and maybe too big for any one name; it was bound together historically by geography/trade/culture (the Pemberton Trail I guess I should get around to writing/startifying....if I haven't already) but never one whole region, more like five tied together and sharing a joint remoteness from the outside; the highway changed all that, revised the country and defined a new region. What you're asking is like "should Okanagan redirect to British Columbia Highway 97? It's used as a region name, by the press and by the government and in organization names; it doesn't coincide with the RD and that's typical of what I'd been saying elsewhere long ago, that's why "historical geographic regions of British Columbia" are relevant; they're rather fixed. This is a newer one, but it's like Sunshine Coast or Fraser Canyon now; there's no other real name for the place; and the shared experience of Highway 99 does make it a place/region in its own right; the modernizing effect of the highway, and highway improvements, to life in the upper country was amazing; I saw it go down, though remember Pemberton before the opening of its isolation only dimly; Lillooet was uptown, Bralorne the biggest place in the region, Bridge River (now South Shalalth the second largest; the other big voting block in the federal riding, was Ocean Falls and, sometimes, Bella Coola;; must have made campaigning hell. Even provincially the riding was all dirt and canyon and ranch/rangeland rutted road right into the Bennett era; part of the whole subject of Frances Decker's book on Pemberton (see refs on article) is how the community fought for and built its own roads; likewise with the Bridge River Country; all of the upper upper country, Bridge River/Bralorne through Lillooet and Seton, will likely get swallowed up in Sea-to-Sky's marketing....once it's all safely bought up ;=); that's why the name's lately been tweaked to "Country" although I think only with the tourism board and the WRA. So it's a region, it's a concept I suppose, and it's not the highway per se. Also, by the way, it smacked of a rip-off of the Ski-to-Sea Festival/race in neighbouring Whatcom County, which was well-known in the Lower Mainland when the growht of megatourism needed a catchy phrase to pitch its turf with; better than Highway of Death, I suppose, as it's also known, along with Killer Highway....ah, what tabloidism has done for the public imagination, huh? (the Province coined those terms, or maybe the Sun invented one of them). In closing, come to think of it, there used to be a phrase "Cheakamus Country" whose meaning is obvious enough; Alta Lake was getting on the Pemberton side of things, only so many minutes by rail but still also within a half-day's journey from Vancouver, longer with the old boat ride from Vancouver harbour to Squamish (sigh....I was never on it, saw lots of pictures); my Dad was a boss for hydro and drove all up through there when the powerline road ran through, connecting all the logging roads which had spurred off the rail line; which ran for much of its route along the Cheakamus where the Lillooet Cattle Trail had been), I seem to remember Cheakamus Canyon and Brohm Ridge in a jeep in the rain; we lived at the Cheakamus Powerhouse construction site over on the Squamish River; the drive up was to Daisy Lake under construction I guess, I don't remember seeing it until the highway was first punched through. I wasn't one of the first to be through the highway, but I suspect my Dad might have been one of the first to drive all the way through; he liked heavy 4x'ing, andpowerline roads then were a whole different order of thing than most are now. Highway 99's like driving in Saskatchewan on autpilot, by comparison. A lot of th two-lane in the late '70s and early '80s that seemed a nightmare was a cakewalk compared to even the '60s; when it was a 4x road blasted out of the rock it must hav been bizarre...but then so was most of that country from there own up, including all main roads....anyway g'nite Skookum1 (talk) 08:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

re map

Anyone intending to make a map please contact me for pointers....Skookum1 (talk) 05:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)