Talk:Sebastian Zouberbuhler

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 19:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Sebastian Zouberbuhler
• Jean Pettrequin

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• ... that a mob in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia detained Jean Pettrequin and searched for Sebastian Zouberbuhler because of a letter?

• Source: http://biographi.ca/en/bio/zouberbuhler_sebastian_4E.html

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mazda Suitcase Car, Template:Did you know nominations/Bangalore
• Comment: Not sure about the hook's wording, open to suggestions.

5x expanded by Z1720 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

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Z1720 (talk) 20:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC).

• @Z1720: Sebastian Zouberbuhler is long enough, new enough, copyvio-free, and deserves no dispute tags. ALT0 is short enough, sourced, and interesting. QPQs done. What makes Jean Pettrequin notable, given that a) there are only two references in the article and one of them is used only for a single word, and b) this event could be (and is) covered adequately at Zouberbuhler's article?--Launchballer 11:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review Launchballer: I think Pettrequin is notable because, per WP:ANYBIO, "has an entry in a country's standard national biographical dictionary". The Dictionary of Canadian Biography is one such entry on Wikipedia's list of biographical dictionaries, and Pettrequin's entry in DCB is cited in the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I'll take it. It's also long enough, new enough, copyvio-free, and deserves no dispute tags, so let's roll.--Launchballer 08:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

For the record, I think the guy falls foul of WP:BIO1E, but the DCB entry should overrule that? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Z1720 (talk · contribs) 02:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: B3251 (talk · contribs) 19:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I have reviewed this article and will provide notes that I made below. Please let me know if you have any questions. B3251_(talk) 19:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Review

Please check 1a, 1b, and 2d.

1. Well-written

a. Y (addressed) Clear and concise prose

• In the lead, consider clarifying that Zouberbuhler was from pre-Confederation (British-controlled) Nova Scotia rather than just Nova Scotia.

• I wikilinked Nova Scotia because there is no pre-Confederation article for it. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Is there confirmation that Louisbourg officially held city status? Otherwise, change all text referring to it as a "city" to "settlement".

• Removed references to city. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Under Early life, make the following changes:
  • Move the first use of Zouberbuhler's full name "Sebastian Zouberbuhler" from the second sentence to the first sentence for consistency. I recommend rewriting it to something like "Sebastian Zouberbuhler was born in Switzerland in 1709 or 1710, the son of Reverend Bartholomew Zouberbuhler. In November 1734, he went ..." (using "he" here instead of his surname to prevent ambiguity between him and his father)

• The ambiguity would still exist, so I just used Bartholemew's first name and reworded like you suggested. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • • When making this change, I also recommend changing all instances of Zouberbuhler's surname to "he", "him", etc. until you reach the next line (where "Zouberbuhler returned to North America" starts), just for further preventing any ambiguity.

• Addressed with the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Add a comma after "While in South Carolina".

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Going off my previous recommendation, change what would now be "He recruited 50 families and left for North America in August 1736 under the direction of his father." to "He recruited 50 families and left for North America in August 1736, under his father's direction."

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Change "... and returned to Switzerland to continue his recruitment. At this time the Swiss government objected ..." to "... and returned to Switzerland to continue his recruitment; the Swiss government objected ..."

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Change "what is now considered" to "present-day".

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Under Lunenburg:
  • Who is "the colonel" referring to? Please either clarify who the colonel is referring to or change "demanding that either the colonel give them the letter or release Zouberbuhler into their custody." to "demanding either the letter or the release of Zouberbuhler into their custody."

• Did the latter suggestion. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Add a comma after both "acting governor of Nova Scotia" and "Charles Lawrence" in the sentence "... would remain in the town until the acting governor of Nova Scotia Charles Lawrence could investigate the matter."

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Under Political and later life:
  • Add a comma after "In July 1758"

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Also add a comma after "The following year"

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Add a hyphen in "reelected" so that it says "re-elected" instead.

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Change "that did not reside in Halifax" to "who did not reside in Halifax"

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Add a comma after "During this time"

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • "the purchase of" is not necessary to include, as it is already talking about Zouberbuhler purchasing land.

• Removed. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Change "whose construction began in 1771" to "which began construction in 1771"

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

b. Y (addressed) MoS compliance

• Under Political and later life:
  • Joshua Mauger is already wikilinked earlier. This can just be changed to "Mauger" rather than his first & last name again.

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Capitalize "County" in "Lunenburg County". Also wikilink Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia.

• Both done. Z1720 (talk) 19:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• • St. Marys Bay, Nova Scotia can just be wikilinked like this: St. Marys Bay as it's already clear that this is all referring to Nova Scotia

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

2. Verifiable with no original research

a. Y List of citations and works cited

• In citation #1, consider changing the "website" field from "biographi.ca" to Dictionary of Canadian Biography.

b. Y Sources cited inline

c. Y No original research

d. Y (addressed) No copyright violations/plagiarism

• Under Political and later life, change "with Alexander McNutt and four others" to something along the lines of "with five other people, including Alexander McNutt," to avoid copyvio

• Done. Z1720 (talk) 19:54, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Under Personal life and death, please address the following sentence:

"Zouberbuhler advocated for a German-speaking Church of England minister in Lunenburg and opposed Lutheran and Calvinist ministers coming to the town."

for close paraphrasing with the source:

"An ardent churchman, Zouberbuhler led the fight to have a German-speaking Church of England minister appointed to Lunenburg and opposed any intrusion of Lutheran and Calvinist preachers."

• Reworded. Z1720 (talk) 19:54, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

3. Broad in its coverage

a. Y Addresses main aspects of the topic

b. Y Focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail

4. Neutral

Y Gives due weight about Zouberbuhler's life from the provided sources

5. Stable

Y Not under any edit wars or dispute

6. Illustrated

a. Y Media have proper copyright statuses attached

b. Y All media are relevant to the topic and have suitable captions

@B3251: Addressed concerns above. Z1720 (talk) 19:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. One instance of the use "city" was missed- I went ahead and fixed it, so no need to go back and address that. I'll go ahead and pass it now. Nice work! B3251_(talk) 20:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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