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I cant believe
editI cant believe you guys think theres no punk rock in this album. "Shut it down" and "secret weapon" "drowning", "chop shop" and "contention" are definately punk rock. theres some pop punk like "angels" and "you're on fire"
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editOh my god! all songs are pop punk or skatepunk just secret weapon and shut it down ist punkrock but drowning and the others are pop punk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.211.123.61 (talk) 14:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
aw come on chop shop and contention are way more punk thn shut it down/secret weapon so what would you call those songs?
plus you do realise right tht punk can be poppy without being pop punk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrice34 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
ok but i think pop punk should be first 79.211.117.145 (talk) 10:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
ok about poppy but not pop punk. some of their songs like "drowning", "my mistake" and "my mom cleans my room" are what you call poppy punk songs, punk songs that are poppy but not actually pop punk, so thats what i meant when i said punk can be poppy but not pop punk, just like pop can be powerful but not power pop, or music can be heavy but not heavy metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 21:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)