Talk:Security checkpoint

Images

File:Jerusalem qalandia checkpoint.jpg

Qalandia checkpoint in Jerusalem, manned by the Israeli Defence Force. -- Moved to talk page in response to concerns about neutrality.

I've been trying to find free use images of checkpoints in other countries, but it is quite difficult. There are some good ones of the OIRA here, but they aren't free use :( - Francis Tyers · 11:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

POV

This is still very far from NPOV. There were and unfortunately still are many hotspots / checkpoints around the world, but our "article" informs the reader that the Israeli checkpoints in the "occupied areas of Palestine" are "detrimental to the health and education of the Palestinian people living in the occupied areas." How do other checkpoints (not manned by vile Israelis) affect health and education? ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 10:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The same. No checkpoints are good. Those were the first links I found. Please feel free to add more information. - Francis Tyers · 10:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I've added some more about Colombia, I hope you'll add something too. - Francis Tyers · 10:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

We should generate more items for the examples. Also, I wonder, though I'm not sure, whether there are checkpoints also set up by PNA security forces in the territories. Similarly, every war zone is likely to have these checkpoints, and I have myself been subjected to UN checkpoints in the Golan and what-not. Although we don't have sources for this, a distinction should probably be made between checkpoints that are used for purposes of genocide (as I imagine the case was in Rwanda and Kosovo) and those that serve a legitimate purpose (i.e., in Germany after WWII). --Leifern 22:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

You could probably also add Bosnia to that 'genocide' part. However, I'd agree, but this should be dealt with in a section of "usage" or somesuch. And yes, I heartily agree in more items, and possibly you're right, the PNA might man checkpoints, or Hamas might too. Although we'd have to see if they are border checkpoints or civilian checkpoints. - Francis Tyers · 08:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

“Checkpoints can lead to hardships for the affected civilians, ranging from inconvenience to mortal danger. Bir Zeit University, for example, has conducted several studies highlighting the effects of checkpoints in the Palestinian territories (with examples of what KIND of “hardships“). In Colombia, the paramilitary forces of the AUC have, according to Amnesty International, imposed limits on the food entering villages, with over 30 people being killed at the checkpoint in one instance. There is no need to belabor every checkpoint issue, BUT if the “hardships” are going to be presented, then the advantages should as well; The ability to control how people enter so that security personnel (be it governmental or civilian) can screen entrants to identify known troublemakers (be they criminal, terrorists, or simple rabble-rousers) and locate contraband items (some old lady was even arrested entering Mexico from the US in a car stuffed full of pot a year or so ago). EDIT: Additionally, if the “hardships” and “dangers” of these security features are presented, then the advantages they bring should also be included; That the Isrælis or Columbians or little green men from Mars use them specifically doesn’t effect the neutrality, but to say they are “so bad” without including what makes them useful does.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.120.224.90 (talk) 14:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Papers please

The phrase "papers please" should not redirect to here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.223.106.131 (talk) 23:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

nothing about ussr or nazi states?

puzzling. Cramyourspam (talk) 23:36, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Security checkpoints are erected for a reason, for example, in a separatist region during a military / internal affairs operation, or in any other instance where internal forces (such as National Guard in US) are deployed. USSR and Russia are not much different in this regard to any other country. If anything, properly set police checkpoints include special equipment, barbed wire, automatic weapons and even light armor, and deployment of military hardware was and is heavily regulated in Russia. That said, there were and are rountine security checkpoints in Russia when entering "strategic towns" - military-industrial and scientific municipalities the citizens of which all agreed to receive security clearance and had signed NDAs. They have little shared characteristics with typical checkpoints in hotspots, where the threat of terrorism or insurgent activity is the reason for establishing checkpoints - such as Chechen wars (which were officially and legally counter-terrorism operations, since they took place inside Russian borders) and conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. AyeBraine (talk) 08:47, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Amnesty International Link dead

Tried to follow the citation number 3, to amnesty international's site, but couldn't find anything for it, Should that paragraph be deleted? 206.223.220.55 (talk) 01:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)