Talk:Seeger

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Jerzy in topic Incensed

Barb Seeger credit

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   Her participation in Animal Folk Songs for Children is verifiable, but among only 14 hits for seeger pete barbara peggy "animal songs for children" rounder 1992 most derive from WP and the most credible is in Chi Trib from 1992:

"She and Mike joined forces again recently to record ``Animal Songs for Children,`` a collection of critter tunes due out in December on Rounder."

Well, so i Googled for seeger pete barbara peggy "animal songs for children" rounder 1992 getting 7 hits that are clearly, or highly likely, attributable to WP, and one that offers for sale both "Musical Beans: Animal Songs for Children - Various Artists", and several entries for "Animal Folk Songs for Children" variously attributed to Peggy and to Mike. I'm satisfied that either the Chi Trib writer was careless, or the pending coincidence of titles was only noted and remedied between August and December. Versus "About 16,200 results" when "folk" is inserted into the title for the search.
--Jerzyt 06:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Incensed

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The US State Department ... was incensed ...

(the last sentence of the 2nd 'graph of Seeger#First American period) i replaced that last quoted word with "vigorously critical", which i still {{fact}}-tagged: "Set into Song" offers no evidence that State was incensed -- but only that someone -- presumably Cox but not necessarily even Seeger -- used that adjective as a figure of speech, not even really to factually describe them, but only as a polemic, a hyperbole, probably expressing his own opinion of or hostility toward State's action or statement. One may attempt inferences about one or more persons' emotional state(s), but only individuals (and not even a unanimous organization that they collectively comprise) are capable of emotional states; the metaphor of attributing emotion to a group is too vague to be verifiable.
   I consider his use of the metaphor a basis for suspecting some sort of vigorous response by State, to the point where i am unwilling to simply discard the whole sentence, but we need verification of vigorous criticism (or of whatever response State verifiably made) and Cox's comment in "SiS" is so far from verifying even my toned-down version that {{fact}} is absolutely necessary.
--Jerzyt 10:20, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply