Talk:Sen no Rikyū

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Laudrycats added "more specific information" about Rikyu's influence, saying: He was also the first to emphasize several key aspects of the ceremony, including rustic simplicity, directness of approach and honesty of self. Originating from the Edo Period and the Muromachi Period, these aspects of the tea ceremony persist.[1]

I have two comments about this: 1) Wabi-cha basically is a matter of those key aspects. Such being the case, I suggest that the initial wording, "he was also the first ..." is misleading. 2) Rikyu did not live into the Edo Period, so how was it that he was the first to emphasize those aspects that originated from the Edo Period?? There seems to be an error in fact going on here. Tksb (talk) 04:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I wrote up an article for wiki-jp. I would like to link this page to wiki-jp, but I couldn't. This page on wiki-en is already linked from wiki-jp. Your contribution for interwiki will be appliciated. KIZU

Death

The introductory section tells about the later three branches of the family after the time of Rikyu's grandson, and provides links about Sotan himself as well as those branches. I do not think this biographical sketch of Rikyu needs to give details about those.Tksb (talk) 13:11, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

In that the current final paragraph in the section about Rikyu's death, which attempts to give information about the three branches of the Sen family (and in this respect overlaps information already given in the introductory section, as mentioned in my comment above), contains gross errors in fact, and the wikipedia articles about Sotan, the san-Senke, and each of the individual families delve into the details about the roots of these families, I am taking the liberty of deleting the paragraph.Tksb (talk) 12:15, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

title "The Honourable Tea Path of the Realm" (天下御茶道, Tenka Gosadō?)

Various sources describe Rikyu as chief of chanoyu affairs (chatō 茶頭) for Hideyoshi (who worked his way up to become the most "powerful figure in the realm" 天下人), and the fact that the emperor specially gave Rikyu (til then generally known as Soeki) the Buddhist title koji so that Rikyu could help with Hideyoshi's special tea at the palace in effect gave Rikyu the status of "the [greatest] tea master in the realm." A whole entry in the Rikyu Encyclopedia is devoted to explaining this. The statement in the present wikipedia article, that Rikyu was given THE TITLE "The Honourable Tea Path of the Realm" (天下御茶道, Tenka Gosadō?), however, is questionable, and since no source reference has been provided for it, I am taking the liberty of deleting the statement.Tksb (talk) 01:37, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Suggested new section on anecdotes relating to aesthetics of tea.

I think the Sadler book could be mined extensively for this. Anyone else concur? Thanks, BrekekekexKoaxKoax (talk) 01:10, 23 December 2010 (UTC)