Talk:Seven Corners, Virginia

Traffic - the seven corners

Handling the traffic which goes into the actual seven corners ought to be explained somewhere. This is the worst intersection I have ever seen, yet it is handled amazingly well. Somewhere, a traffic "expert" ought to explain how superficially with maybe a more esoteric article somewhere else which addresses problems of this nature. Student7 (talk) 18:10, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Project tagging

Following the tenets of WP:BRD, I'm opening this discussion. This article is about a census-designated place in Virginia. The origins of the place might be that it is centered around a specific intersection of roadways, but the article, as written is about that place. The format of the article follows that of cities, townships or other CDPs, so it's more properly about Seven Corners, the CDP. Negaunee, Michigan isn't tagged as part of WP:USRD just because that is the location of the junction of some highways. Following that line of logic, I untagged this article from the project. Imzadi 1979 → 08:06, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I also untagged the article. If you look at WP:USRD#Scope, which was agreed upon by the members of the WikiProject, our scope consists of four points: 1) numbered route systems 2) freeways, expressways, parkways and toll roads 3) Historic auto trails 4) Former alignments of numbered routes. This was agreed upon in the WT:USRD archives. As NE2 said himself, "Sure - if there's very little that road editors can do to help with the article, it probably shouldn't be tagged for USRD." Seven Corners, VA is primarily a census-designated place, so there's very little that road editors can do to help with the article. Yes, the CDP owes its germination to a six-pointed intersection, but that intersection doesn't even exist in its original configuration, and even if it did, would just be a minor part of the present-day location. Tons of towns owe their early history to being on a rail line (hell, Woodward, Oklahoma is even named after the president of the rail line) but they aren't tagged as rail articles, because they're not -- they're town articles. Same as this one. Sure, the intersection was a big thing. But look at the article. Seven Corners has a mosque. It's got a Home Depot. It's got a parking garage. It's not just an intersection anymore. The tagging is improper and is to be removed. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 02:17, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't be silly. This article is currently about not only the CDP, but also a major intersection/interchange, like the articles in Category:Road interchanges in the United States. --NE2 01:07, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't be silly. You're pretty much saying that any time a highway feature is mentioned in any article, it has to be tagged with USRD. That's ridiculous.Oklahoma_City,_Oklahoma#Transportation has a paragraph about the highways in the city and that it is at an integral part of the Interstate network. Should that be tagged as USRD? No, because that's not the primary focus of the article. Neither is this. Were this an article just about the s

From the USRD scope: "This WikiProject maintains articles relating to roadways of national or regional significance in the United States." This article mentions some roadways. Hell, hardly even that: it mentions one intersection. It's not about them, it's about a CDP. This intersection is not of national or regional significance, and I'd say that it may not even be notable and worth covering in the encyclopedia at all.

Instead of wasting energy trying to force this into USRD, why not do something useful like expanding Virginia's 306 stubs? That's what we need done, not someone tagging CDP articles as if they were about highways.

I will post a topic to WT:USRD. We will see what consensus says. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 01:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's face it, the "community" is named after the intersection, not the other way around as it is in most other places. Today, the highway portion is imbedded in the community article. It seems to be that the highway project is appropriate. Once it gets moved to its own article, the Project Highway would move as well IMO. Student7 (talk) 20:01, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

An article about the intersection, using {{infobox road junction}}, tag as part of USRD. An article that focuses on the CDP that uses {{infobox settlement}}, don't tag as part of USRD. That's pretty much it for me. Let me clarify something though, simply adding a second infobox to the current article won't instantly transform this article for me. This article, as written and titled, is about the settlement, which is why it has the infobox that it does. If USRD's project scope included all settlements because they included transportation sections, then the project would have tagged many, many times the already large number of articles it has. The project scope is well-defined, and it doesn't have a fifth point: "Anything else that NE2 says". As of right now, this is an article about a place, with secondary information about the intersection, so it doesn't fall under the project scope. Imzadi 1979 → 22:50, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Wilson

I noticed that within the intersection, a sign pointed to Wilson and 613 simultaneously. The following seems to confirm that http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/AADT_029_Fairfax_2007.pdf. Apparently only running for 1/2 mile, for all the good that does! Also, Wikipedia's own article on 613 says the same thing: Wilson and 613. Student7 (talk) 18:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)