Talk:Sextuple metre
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I added a section to this article the "Use in Western Music". I incorporated what was already here
Add recordings?
editI think it'd be great to add a recording of music in 6/8 time to this article. Does anyone know how to do that?
All of Western music
editThis says that in all of Western music, a beat is stressed regardless of the time signature. I find it difficult to accept that wording. Perhaps, "In most Western music, certain beats in a bar are stressed."
Also maybe add a note that the reason the jazz accents are more prevalent elsewhere is because that rhythm is usually syncopated.
SO my proposed edit is this:
"In most Western music where there is a discernible rhythm, certain beats are stressed. In 6/8, the accented beats are usually the 1st and the 4th, or else they can be syncopated 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 6th (most commonly in jazz, rock and country)."-Rapturerocks 13:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Proposals for a dotted note getting one beat
editHas any musician proposed a notation for time signatures that means a dotted note gets one beat?? (Like, instead of 6/8, this time signature can be called 2/4. (the . is not a period; it is a dot that indicates the bottom number of the time signature is 4. (pronounced 4 dot; meaning the dotted quarter note; once again the dot is not a period.)) Georgia guy (talk) 13:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Unfortunately a Wikipedia entry is not really the place to propose new systems of notation. This article can only describe what is currently used and discussed. Finbob83 (talk) 14:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Well, he is not proposing a new system of notation; he is asking if any musician has done so. And indeed, Carl Orff's time signatures fit the bill, writing 2/ . for 6/8. Double sharp (talk) 15:43, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Accuracy
editI removed "Miss Murder" by AFI from the list of examples of songs in 6/8. Why this example was in the list for such a long amount of time is very strange.
The song is obviously in 4/4 with no changes in the time signature whatsoever. If you are contributing an example, please double check. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.9.65 (talk) 19:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Groupings
editI tried to edit this article to take out the reference to the option of interpreting it as 3 groups of 2, and it was unedited immediately and I got a message saying I was vandalizing? Can anyone find a reference to this being an optional grouping? If not, can we take out that line? 99.239.92.250 (talk) 00:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note the sentence "However, in practice 6/8 is used almost exclusively as the latter". In my experience, 3/4 is the preferred time signature for a piece that is consistently the former. But what about songs that alternate between these ways?? For clarification, this means that the song goes:
1-2-3-4-5-6 1-2-3-4-5-6, alternating between these two ways from measure to measure. A number of Internet sites that I've visited talk about songs in 6/8 that alternate like this. Remember that these are technically the same thing only stressed differently. Georgia guy (talk) 13:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
List of examples
editThe list of examples is getting very long. Will anyone object if I remove all the songs that we don't have articles about? (I will finish adding links to existing articles first.) --Zundark (talk) 17:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
As nobody has voiced any objection, I've removed the articleless songs (or, at least, most of them - I haven't checked all the links yet, so some of those remaining may not really have an article). --Zundark (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. Mkativerata (talk) 20:54, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
6/8 time → Sextuple meter — Wikipedia's articles for time signatures are inconsistent. Duple meter and triple meter have articles for the general kinds of time signatures with the top numbers specified. Duple meter can be 2/1, 2/2, 2/4, 2/8, 2/16, 2/32, or 2/64. Triple meter can be 3/1, 3/2, 3/4, 3/8, 3/16, 3/32, or 3/64. Sextuple meter can be 6/1, 6/2, 6/4, 6/8, 6/16, 6/32, or 6/64. Georgia guy (talk) 16:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- I think I
opposethis for now. These are really separate, if related, topics. Although it is interesting that no other time signature (that I can find) has its own article. Powers T 19:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)- Duple meter, Triple meter, Quadruple meter, Quintuple meter, and Septuple meter are all about time signatures in general with that number of beats. Georgia guy (talk) 19:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- And you could write sextuple meter. But this stub, with its eighth notes, isn't it. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Many of the things in this article hold for all sextuple meter time signatures with the only difference is the note (e.g. quarter note) goes in them. Study this article. Georgia guy (talk) 20:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- When it is written, I may support a merge - but I can't tell until I see it. In the meantime, why rename? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- And re-write, to generalize to talking about time signatures with 6 beats in general rather than just 6/8?? Georgia guy (talk) 20:38, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- When it is written, I may support a merge - but I can't tell until I see it. In the meantime, why rename? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Many of the things in this article hold for all sextuple meter time signatures with the only difference is the note (e.g. quarter note) goes in them. Study this article. Georgia guy (talk) 20:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- And you could write sextuple meter. But this stub, with its eighth notes, isn't it. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Duple meter, Triple meter, Quadruple meter, Quintuple meter, and Septuple meter are all about time signatures in general with that number of beats. Georgia guy (talk) 19:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Support move. The article has been rewritten and now also covers other sextuple meters. None of the other time signatures have their own articles (4/4 redirects to Time signature and 3/4 is a dab page, for example). Jafeluv (talk) 08:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
- Very well, I Support since the article has been re-written. Powers T 14:05, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
On this article
editIt is a notable topic, that could certainly be developed into an article. How the old version went about doing it is not right. It doesn't describe sextuple meter; it describes compound duple. Assuming 6/8, compound duple is 1 & a 2 & a, where only the first and fourth eighth notes fall on the dotted-quarter-note beat, while sextuple meter is 1 2 3 4 5 6, where there is a clear sense of six beats to the bar and the beat is an eighth note (though there may be subsidiary stress on the fourth beat as well as the first (3+3), or perhaps on the third or fifth beats as well as the first (2+2+2)). Double sharp (talk) 12:02, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Well then, try to create the article whatever way you can. Georgia guy (talk) 13:03, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- I soon will (and have a few musical examples in mind). Double sharp (talk) 13:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)