Talk:Sexual division of labour

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Orchastrattor in topic Woman the Hunter source dump

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I think this article has a neutrality problem, since no criticism or alternative views are mentioned. For example, this article http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061207-sex-humans.html indicates that there are some people who criticize the idea that the sexual division of labor evolved biologically. --Aronoel (talk) 21:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Only read through the first few paragraphs and have spotted ommisions and odd biases. The reference to the Ryans' is troubling... I don't have time at the moment, but the page needs serious review. http://dispatchesfromtheclaphamomnibus.blogspot.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by MariaGloriosa (talkcontribs) 17:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

I plan on writing new pages for the show-off hypothesis and the provisioning hypothesis so that I can link them to the Hunting Hypothesis page, which i am expanding and so I plan to link these subsections on the Show-off/provisioning hypothesis to these pages. Katherinegaffney (talk) 17:31, 14 October 2012 (UTC)KatherinegaffneyReply

"optimal dietary mix of mutually exclusive foods"

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I'm not saying this is wrong, I just got curious. Anyone know what those foods are? And this for sure applies to humans (and the article as a whole)? Human females often prefer salad more than males and less meat/protein would be my guess. Very plausible to me because men have more muscle (and need for it?). I had just not seen it officially. Am I off base? comp.arch (talk) 14:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well you cant hunt moose and collect berries simultaneously, that's not how the world works. Hunting is a high risk high gain enterprise so you would want to have expendable males doing that, while females do low risk low gain foraging. I'm not sure about the preference, building small humans also takes a lot of energy, protein etc. AndersThorseth (talk) 10:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
We'll still need some proper sources on this information. We'll have to review the cited source (I don't have time right now.), but this salad steak dichotomy is just pure conjecture for now. The whole article is full of pop-science like this so we'll have to rewrite a lot of it. Skerbs (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
The sex difference in eating habits is very easy to find sources for, the question is whether any of the sources relate this to the division of work (google: "sex difference in dietary habits"). AndersThorseth (talk) 15:19, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Lerner and Socrates

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The section "Sexual division of labor and the evolution of sex differences" Is treating the arguments of Socrates in Plato's Republic via Lerner as if they were fact. They are not fact. Socrates was a moral philosopher, not a scientist. More importantly, its all about the desirability of a sexual division of labor from a normative perspective, not how it evolved. These arguments really belong in a separate section. As it stands, its confusing the issue of how the sexual division of labor emerged with whether or not it is ethical and desirable. The two issues are related. But they are not inter-changeable. Sewblon 19:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Not an expert, but I think this article has major issues with dividing the sociological and evolutionary perspectives (unavoidable in the realm of anthropology). Might have to split this article up into various perspectives instead, though I don't yet have an idea of how that should look like.Skerbs (talk) 14:45, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Woman the Hunter source dump

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Livia Gershon. This Prehistoric Peruvian Woman Was a Big-Game Hunter, Smithsonian Magazine, 5 November 2020.

"the discovery points to greater involvement of hunter-gatherer women in bringing down large animals than previously believed."

Sarah Lacy & Cara Ocobock. The Theory That Men Evolved to Hunt and Women Evolved to Gather Is Wrong, Scientific American, 1 November 2023.

"We still have much to learn about female athletic performance and the lives of prehistoric women. Nevertheless, the data we do have signal that it is time to bury Man the Hunter for good." [added emphasis]

Orchastrattor (talk) 03:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

I also started Draft:Women in prehistory though I doubt I'll have time to develop it much with exam season coming on. Orchastrattor (talk) 05:17, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply